RE: Blurring the lines.
January 12, 2015 at 3:22 pm
(This post was last modified: January 12, 2015 at 3:24 pm by Drich.)
(January 12, 2015 at 2:58 pm)Nope Wrote:(January 12, 2015 at 2:46 pm)Drich Wrote: There is a very simple test to determine whether one is a Christian or not. 1st do the claim to be? 2nd do they follow the canonical teaching of Jesus Christ?
Those are the only two requirements Per the Apstole Paul, and his letter to the Galations.
Why are their requirements for atheism who has no rules, and no requirements for those who claim Christianity who does have rules?
Mormons believe that they are following Jesus too. If it bugs you so much join a Mormon forum and argue with them. Maybe a few will come over to your way of thinking. Mormon's interpretation of the bible is different from yours. They obviously believe that they are right and you are wrong.
I am not certain what you expect from a group of atheists. What you are doing would be like me coming to you and complaining that you were calling someone an atheist who believes in ghosts. Anyone who doesn't believe in a deity is an atheist, that's it. If someone states that they believe Jesus is the son of god, I am going to consider them a Christian and so will most other people.
Do we have any Mormons on this forum?
That's just it. According to thier last president/prophet Hinkle, different Jesus, Different God. He clearly states the Jesus of the bible and the Jesus of Mormonism are two different people with two different orgins. The mormon Jesus just happens to be call Jesus Christ. The current president has done nothing to correct this statement.
(January 12, 2015 at 3:07 pm)Nope Wrote: I have always liked these verses from Matthew, Chapter 25. They indicate that those who don't feed the hungry , clothe the needy etc. will not get into heaven.
Is taking care of the needy one of the signs of Christianity, Drich?
Quote:34“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37“Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
41“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44“They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45“He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
46“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
Again one must follow the Canonical teachings of Jesus, as this is a direct teaching i would say yes.
(January 12, 2015 at 3:15 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: I don't really see the point of continued discussion, Drich will simply reassert that he knows what makes a "True Christian" and that he understands the requirements for being one, which allows him to deem certain other sects as "not-Christians".
There's no discussion here.
It is not the assertion of Drich your arguing FF it is the direction of Paul in the book of Galations.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=ERV
