(January 13, 2015 at 4:08 am)robvalue Wrote: As far as I'm concerned, these lines are drawn by the theists. And they draw more and more lines, until it's just a garbled mess.
From my point of view, don't know if most atheists agree, I couldn't care less what a theist calls themselves. Or whether other theists agree with their classification. To me it's like argueing over the colour of an invisible dog.
What does make me laugh is when people talk about "true" or "real" versions. All you've got is a book, that's as far as the reality of the myths goes. There is no "true" way to build a story about what is real and what is not, in a fictional but somehow real way. Just like there is no "true" way in which all the Harry potter characters actually existed. It's all made up. No one has the authority to say what is and isn't the best, or real, version of made up interpretations of reality.
The author of the Harry Potter series admits the books are made up, the writers of the Bible gave their lives in defense of it's truth, way big difference.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.