Blurring the lines.

[Godscreated]

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You're right, however it's the business of the church and when someone who calls them self a Christian and we call them out, why is it you all jump on the bandwagon and question what we have to say?

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As I said above, I take the claims at face value. If a person claims to be Christian and then denies Christ or the Bible, then I figure he's more of a nut than a Christian, but if he professes to follow both then I just go along. The most important thing, to me, is what he believes and why he believes. We have had people here who denied being Christian yet used only the Bible as their source of teaching. Since I do not expect that every person here will make sense, I just shrug my shoulders and move on.

But you do understand that I do not recognize the authority of any individual or church to say who is or is not a Christian, yes? The Bible is too open to interpretation to say that one specific view or the other is the recognizably "true" version. I don't believe in your god or his existence, and I believe that the Bible is just a book of ancient writings cobbled together by men with an agenda that was more political than religious. Thus I don't have any stake in which interpretation is true and which person is following it to the letter. That's for Christians, true or not, to hash out among themselves.

Actually there's no both to it, the Bible is an instruction book for Christian living and a history of why we need Christ. The Gospels tell us about our Christ and the rest of the NT is about the way we are to live as Christians and how we can tell if there's fruit on the tree.
You're right it's the business of the Christian church to determine who may be or may not be a Christian. When we refer to a person being a "true" Christian it is their basic belief we are concerned with not their denominational beliefs, all denominations that are Christian have the same basic belief, period.

GC

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Not to us, GC. Someone sacrificing themselves in defense of Hogwarts is just as ridiculous as sacrificing themselves for God.

Harry Potter is just newer....and far better written.

As usual you missed the crux of what I said.

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Yes, to us saying you are christian means nothing. You are describing a self delusion. Why should we care how people describe delusions? You expect us to demand consistent labelling of an entirely irrational and fictional idea?

You think we believe atheist have deluded themselves, yes we do, you've bought into the lie Satan sold Adam and Eve. You criticize us for believing in something we can't see, yet you can't see you bought into something you can't see and you do not even realize you have.

GC