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January 14, 2015 at 8:13 am
(This post was last modified: January 14, 2015 at 8:47 am by Little Rik.)
(January 13, 2015 at 1:38 pm)Surgenator Wrote: Restating your position or your theory doesn't make it more believable. You need good evidence to make it more believalbe, and the evidence you presented is still crap. Hense your theory is not valid. Also, analogies are not proofs nor evidence.
You came down with the statement that there is no difference when i said that..........................There are differences between a natural loss of blood supply to the brain and one induced loss.
You present no evidences to back up your statement and yet you pretend evidences from me.
Sorry surgen but beside being far too cocky you also fail badly in understanding how the system works.
If you don't take in consideration all elements like mind and consciousness it is obvious that your statements are all hot air.
Quote:If you want medical knowledge, go to college and study it. While your at it, you should take a basic statistics and science course. Maybe you'll realize that the null hypothesis is always something we know about, never something new.
Since i awake the spirituality within i realize that the best way to proceed is to have a proper balance among body-mind and spirit.
If i would have spent half of my life studying medicine i would have neglected all the rest and i wouldn't be able to proceed straight toward the goal of life.
There are people who are interested in more physical matters.
It is up to them to sort out their priorities in life.

Quote:Testinomials are not scientific evidence. Just like the alien abduction testinomials, listing more doesn't prove your claims.
When testimonials come from qualified people i always take them in due consideration although they may not prove a claim.
Quote:The pituary gland that control the mind is below the pineal gland.
Quote:Look up the pituitary gland and only found the hormone controller not control room of the mind. Unless you think our mind is nothing but hormones, then it would the control room of the mind. Somehow the electrical pulses in neurons and their arrangement with one another plays a big role.
It is understandable that physical science can understand the physicality of the gland.
And it is understandable that anyone studying the gland from a physical point of view ONLY come to the conclusion that the gland is only related to physical manifestation.
What new after all!

What yoga discovered thousand years ago physical science has yet to discover but again sooner or later this science will understand who control the mind.
Quote:You really don't know how the brain evolved do you?[/url] If you did, the answer would become quite obvious.
What the evolution of the brain has to do with what i am saying only God knows.
Quote:Restating your position and theories doesn't make them more believable.
So if my theory is faulty then we can say that the gland that control the matter and the excrements may also control the mind and everything is then up for grab so to speak.
You are very funny surgen.
Quote:In the case in which the NDE saw the nurse dropping a baby the event happen during the NDE not before and his testimonial lead to the evidence that this incident really happen and as i said happen during the NDE so no this has nothing to do with an altered mind.
Quote:How do you know that is when the NDE occured? How do you know the baby dropped wasn't incorporated into the NDE memory afterwards? The simple answer is you don't. You assumed it was the case.
Thousand of testimonials that come to the same conclusion are no evidence.
They must all be dreaming.

Quote:Do you know that the person has never been in that hospital? Do you know the person has never seen the other room while he was in the waiting room? Do you know that he didn't incorporated the NDE with the waiting room afterwards? There are too many other normal everyday events that can easily explain this. However, you jump to the supernatural explanation as if it were more valid.
Thousand of people who went through an NDE described their experiences in a calm and serene way not as people who had an LSD or mushroom trip.
Why should they lie?
Do they make money by lying, or they become famous by lying?
I am not the one who jump to supernatural explanations.
All of them experienced the supernatural so there got to be something real in it.
If on top of that their understanding of the system go hand in hand with my experiences in spirituality then why not.

(January 14, 2015 at 7:20 am)pocaracas Wrote:(January 14, 2015 at 7:04 am)Riketto Wrote: 7 has always be an important number.You forgot fire, earth, electricity, ice, magnetism, plasma, wood and sound... just to name a few.
Earth, water, light, air, space, mind, spirit
And then you have all the magical powers.... toooo many to list!
Actually it is not me that forgot something.
Fire is energy and also electricity is energy so they all come under the light fundamental element.
The same thing apply for plasma which come under the matter or earth element.
Every other element that you mention come also under one of the 7 fundamental elements.
You remind me of someone who said that with the heat it is not possible to generate cold like the cold in a fridge.
All elements are up for transformation so everything is possible.
(January 14, 2015 at 7:47 am)Tonus Wrote:(January 14, 2015 at 7:04 am)Riketto Wrote: But i am sure that when the science that you guys believe in will understand the role of the pineal gland also the dreams of atheists will be shattered.That would be a first. To date, anything that scientists have come to understand does not support any of the mystical and supernatural explanations that were made up by "intuitional science." Hundreds of years. Potentially tens of thousands of discoveries. All of them having natural explanations, none of them attributed to woo.
But you keep on trusting that intuitional science, buddy!
When i need to fix my plumbing i call a plumber not a carpenter so it is obvious that physical science has never been able to understand the mystical and supernatural.
How can they when it is outside their competence?
