RE: Atheist vs Pantheist
January 15, 2015 at 9:23 am
(This post was last modified: January 15, 2015 at 9:50 am by Cheerful Charlie.)
The idea that science ignores concepts like souls is correct. Starting with Descartes, the best minds in Europe struggled for decades trying to figure out what soul was and how it interacted with matter, our bodies. The task wholly defeated them. There is an old concept of secondary causes, that is nature, God created nature and its material laws, which we experience. Natural philosophy was the investigation of secondary causes, which became science. Philosophy took up the task of evidences of supernaturalism and failed utterly to demonstrate that any such exists.Science does not need supernaturalism, and sees no evidence any such exists.
Science then does not deal with supernaturalism because no such thing can be proven to exist. So science is done the same way by rank atheists and the most orthodox Catholics or Christians you can find.
Philosophy of religion still struggles with the fact that God, supernaturalism, et al creates problems, self contradictions, and impossibilities, and so isn't an explanation for anything. When the philosophers demonstrate some such exists and can be dealt with in some fashion as to exclude error, then science might be interested.
Until then, science won't waste time or effort on what for centuries now has proved an empty fool's errand.
Science then does not deal with supernaturalism because no such thing can be proven to exist. So science is done the same way by rank atheists and the most orthodox Catholics or Christians you can find.
Philosophy of religion still struggles with the fact that God, supernaturalism, et al creates problems, self contradictions, and impossibilities, and so isn't an explanation for anything. When the philosophers demonstrate some such exists and can be dealt with in some fashion as to exclude error, then science might be interested.
Until then, science won't waste time or effort on what for centuries now has proved an empty fool's errand.
Cheerful Charlie
If I saw a man beating a tied up dog, I couldn't prove it was wrong, but I'd know it was wrong.
- Attributed to Mark Twain
If I saw a man beating a tied up dog, I couldn't prove it was wrong, but I'd know it was wrong.
- Attributed to Mark Twain
