(January 15, 2015 at 4:44 am)Riketto Wrote:How is the spirit suppose to differentiate between feeling pain or not feeling pain?(January 14, 2015 at 2:04 pm)Surgenator Wrote: In either case, natural or induced, circulation stops. Oxygen and other neutrients are no longer being supplied to the brain. How is the brain suppose to know that it is induced or not?How the brain suppose to differentiate between feeling pain and not feeling pain?
Who told you that it is the brain role?
Get rid of your many dogmas mate.
http://jamie-monk.blogspot.com.au/2011/0...urite.html
Who told you that it was the spirit's role?
Get rid of your many dogmas mate.
http://neuroscience.uth.tmc.edu/s2/chapter06.html
Quote:"No real progress" The irony is sweet. If only I typed this up 2000 years ago and sent it digitially over thousands of miles to a person I haven't even meet, oh wait, we can only do this in this age. I wonder why.Quote:Then it seems that you will never have the medical knowledge you wished. At least you do have a specialty, wishful thinking.I wish so many things surgen but i also reach the stage in which i believe in priorities.
I just don't wish to be reborn again and again to chase hallucinations and delay the day i will merge in the ocean of bliss.
What about you?
Are you happy to live in a world in which there is no real progress?
If only I had my slaves, damn human rights.
Quote:Translation: If you never try to believe in unproven claims, then you will never believe in unproven claims.Quote:LOL. Nobody is qualified. Do you know why? Because you lie the best to yourself. Hense, you cannot trust yourself to determine what is objectively true.In a way nobody except God is really qualify but there are some people who are a bit more qualify than other.
If you never take any risk you never get anywhere.
By the way surgen, just ask you one small question.
When you find a beautiful person and you wish to kiss him-her do you ask a medical certificate that he-she doesn't have syphilis or AIDS or you go along and kiss?
And thats the way I like it.
To answer your question, no. I would not asked for a medical certificate because syphilis and AIDs rarely spread through kissing. Plus, syphilis gives you sores that are easily spotted.
Quote:Delusion 101.Quote:There you go again putting the cart before the horse. You first have to prove that a spirits exist before you can claim a gland is its doorway. Do you even understand the duelist problem with this hypothesis? How is a physical thing suppose to interact with a spiritual thing? There has to be a mediator, what is the mediator?I find the evidence when i do meditation.
By concentrating on a particular gland i feel that gland as the center of energy in that particular area but again it is by practicing that you may understand this point.
Quote:You're still a house cat in jungle of dinosaurs. But don't worry, you can still play with yarn.......it will always be there...........Quote:I'm not even sure what you're saying here. The brain has sections that control different aspects. All these sections do work together like a giant commitee. There is noone in charge, and everyone is kind of doing their own thing. However, they still talk to each other.You still are far far away and in the middle of the big ocean and the shore is still far far away.
But as the old granny said.............it is never too late.......
See, I can also make pointless statements too. However, you have a lot more experience.
Quote:WOW. Just WOW. How the fuck did you jump from a talk about the validity of testmonials to atheist stop being atheist? You must really hate this topic to try to change it this badly. So.... prove that testimonials are scientific evidences.Quote:Thosands of alien abduction testimonials that come to the same conclusion are no evidence. There not evidence for aliens because there are simple psycological explanations for each case. NDE's are in the same boat.Are you saying that the atheists that had an NDE and no longer are atheists had all an hallucination?
Quote:Oh look, you also don't like to talk about the null hypothesis either. Why not? Why are you changing the subject?Quote:First off, I never said they were lying. I said they were wrong. For someone to lie, they first have to know that what they're saying isn't true.Why don't you go to grab the ex atheists that after an NDE are now believing in God and bang them in the head until they admit that what they really had was just a big hallucination.
You can't seem to grasp the concept of the null hypothesis. The null hypothesis is always based on well known phenomena. The physical universe is a well known phenomena. Before you can propose newly discovered phenomena, you first have to show that the known ones cannot explain the observations. Then, you can create a falsifiable hypothesis that you test. So far, you haven't been able to do the first step. And the next step is impossible for you because your hypothesis is not falsifiable. Hense, it is not scientific.
Go on surgen.
Also, can you really trust someones memory?