(January 16, 2015 at 1:39 pm)dyresand Wrote:(January 16, 2015 at 1:31 pm)Brian37 Wrote: He wont even give us credit if we say not even atheists have a right to decide what is or is not offensive.
It is not enough to simply be pissed at anything that might upset you. The common law is already in place that bans calls to violence and acts of violence.
The problem even PC liberal atheists forget is long term "who gets to decide". Both atheists and believers need to think carefully about using censorship as a tactic. Power shifts over time and no one should want their own ability to bitch about something to get hit by a future power that might not like what they have to say.
The only pragmatic thing anyone can do is agree to leave it at words and not get violent over getting pissed at something.
Religion should give up its power they had it long enough and now look at how its abusing it. Religion doesn't need a voice in government, politics, and censorship. Because frankly look at what religion does to people and well religion should have its power stripped away.
It should be intellectually brave, unfortunately that flaw is in our evolution. Humans lean to gap filling far more than fact finding. Our gap filling unfortunately does have the real benefit in safety in numbers. Problem is we have not in mass in large enough numbers, figured out that our species successes can be centered around very bad ideas.
Force is not an option for atheists, that would be as utopian as their designs. I do think however our modern pluralism and secular laws and increasing media, will make it harder for such absurdities to have safe havens from scrutiny.
There will never be a perfect world but we can seek to manage it better.
