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[Surgenator]

How is the spirit suppose to differentiate between feeling pain or not feeling pain?
Who told you that it was the spirit's role?
Get rid of your many dogmas mate.
http://neuroscience.uth.tmc.edu/s2/chapter06.html

I knew you wouldn't get it.
How can you when your mind is confined to this physical world?
In the pictures that i showed you you can see people doing things without feeling pain like perforating their bodies.
Under normal circumstances people would feel a lot of pain but they don't.
How come?
Because by elevating their consciousness above their mind the mind itself can not act in a normal way.
You silence the mind.
You control the mind.
So this prove that the consciousness is well above the mind.
Your dogmas or false truth come from the fact that you and the physical science that you believe can not go behind the mind therefore nothing exist behind the mind.
This however is not the reality as you can see in the picture.
This is pure evidence surgen.

So let me guess, you found a phenomena that you think (not proved) cannot be explained by the brain. Therefore, spirits. How do you know this cannot be explained by the brain? You admitted that you don't have the medical expertise to do so. For the record, neither do I. Yet you make the bold accertion that it can't. Your presenting a prime example of the argument-from-ignorance fallacy.

"No real progress" The irony is sweet. If only I typed this up 2000 years ago and sent it digitially over thousands of miles to a person I haven't even meet, oh wait, we can only do this in this age. I wonder why.
If only I had my slaves, damn human rights.

Dreaming again surgen.
You only propose the goodies leaving the crap behind.
Again you do not understand how the system works.
The positive ALWAYS go hand in hand with the negative physically and mentally speaking but you can't get it.
In the past the air was clean, the water was not polluted, the fruits and the food taste very suit and free from pesticides.
Their bodies were strong and able to deal with the elements.
They didn't have to take viagra to have a normal intercourse.
They didn't suffer from insomnia.
I could continue on and on but it would be like talking to a brick wall.

The wonderful past where people died from tooth decay and had a lifespace of 30 years. But now we have all this dirty air, water, and pesticides that prevents us progressing past the age of 30. Oh wait, we now live up to 80 years old. How is that not progress. How the fact that people have more leisure time today than in the past 100 years considered not progress.

FYI, they didn't take viagra because they didn't live past 30. Viagra is for old people that are in the 50's and up.

Translation: If you never try to believe in unproven claims, then you will never believe in unproven claims.
And thats the way I like it.
To answer your question, no. I would not asked for a medical certificate because syphilis and AIDs rarely spread through kissing. Plus, syphilis gives you sores that are easily spotted.

That was just an example in order to see your opinion.
We were talking about taking risks but your risks are confined to the physical-mental world only that is why you come to the belief that above the mind there is nothing else.

The reason why I don't believe in anything beyond the physical worlds is simple. There is no evidence for it.

Delusion 101.

The bigger delusion must be to believe that there is nothing above the mind but fortunally that is not my problem.

Look up occam's razor. It will point out the logical fail in your line of thinking.

You're still a house cat in jungle of dinosaurs. But don't worry, you can still play with yarn.......it will always be there...........
See, I can also make pointless statements too. However, you have a lot more experience.

It really depend with who i am talking about.
When i talk with someone really intelligent i bow my head in sign of respect but when i am talking with someone confined to inside a corral of dogma then i can enjoy myself by being funny.

Irony, how sweet thy is.

Are you saying that the atheists that had an NDE and no longer are atheists had all an hallucination?

WOW. Just WOW. How the fuck did you jump from a talk about the validity of testmonials to atheist stop being atheist? You must really hate this topic to try to change it this badly. So.... prove that testimonials are scientific evidences.

WOW WOW WOW.
Since when your scientific evidence has been able to understand the supernatural world?

There you go again, trying to change the subject. Prove that testimonials are scientific evidences.

Oh look, you also don't like to talk about the null hypothesis either. Why not? Why are you changing the subject?

Hypothesis do not apply to you.
You already made up your mind
Again you are convinced that there is nothing above the mind.

See I told you don't understand the null hypothesis. My position is the null hypothesis. It is your job to prove that the null hypothesis isn't sufficient to explain the observations.