RE: If
January 17, 2015 at 3:35 am
(This post was last modified: January 17, 2015 at 3:49 am by Little Rik.)
(January 16, 2015 at 4:57 pm)rasetsu Wrote:(January 16, 2015 at 8:16 am)Riketto Wrote: In the pictures that i showed you you can see people doing things without feeling pain like perforating their bodies.
Under normal circumstances people would feel a lot of pain but they don't.
How come?
Because by elevating their consciousness above their mind the mind itself can not act in a normal way.
You silence the mind.
You control the mind.
So this prove that the consciousness is well above the mind.
Your dogmas or false truth come from the fact that you and the physical science that you believe can not go behind the mind therefore nothing exist behind the mind.
This however is not the reality as you can see in the picture.
This is pure evidence surgen.
When I lost 9 fingers due to frostbite, they didn't amputate the dead flesh right away. For several weeks, they allowed the dead flesh to necrotize so as to separate the good flesh from the bad. During this time I essentially had two large open wounds on each hand. In order to deal with the pain, they fed me a constant diet of opiates, painkillers derived from poppies. I felt rather little pain this way. The reason these opiates worked to suppress the pain is that they mirror the effect of natural opiates produced by the brain. The brain produces its own painkillers. Under the right circumstances, the brain can, on its own, suppress considerable pain using things like dissociation and natural opiates. What you claim is evidence of the separateness of consciousness from the mind is no such thing. It's just another example of the many strange capacities of the brain. Pure evidence my ass.
The circumstances vary from individual to individual.
You build up these circumstances.
It is like having people with money and people without money.
During the war some people scream full throat for a small wound while some other people with big wound hardly scream.
But again this is only the physical-mental side of the equation.
If you don't believe the pictures that i showed you you can go one day to one of these festival and experience for yourself how the consciousness can be disconnected from the mind so again this is evidence.

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(January 16, 2015 at 2:09 pm)Davka Wrote:(January 16, 2015 at 6:54 am)Riketto Wrote: Ok.
Now for a minute try to think that you are God and you are dealing with an atheist that just pop up in the supernatural world after his physical death.
As an hypothetical God and as the master of the universe what would you think or do.
Would you be pleased to see him or would you be pissed off to see him.
That would depend entirely on my personality.
If I were a capricious, wrathful, jealous trickster-god, I'd be both pleased and pissed. Pleased because I'd have a new toy to torment, and pissed just because that's who I am.
If I were a loving, forgiving, kind and merciful god, I'd be pleased to see anyone and everyone. I would be able to ease the pain and suffering that is inherent to life, and I'd finally be able to explain the purpose and workings of the Universe.
You mean that you would act like a father that do his son homework?
So how your son would ever learn anything?
I would have thought that a good father would try to use a bit of stick in order to educate his son.
Suppose you in this life exploit the labour.
As God i would make you reborn as an exploited labour in order to see the evil of exploitation and in order to learn how to live better.
And as an atheist i would let you born and reborn again until you realize that the real progress con not exist in this material-physical world but again i may be wrong.


