(January 17, 2015 at 4:53 am)Riketto Wrote:First off, I'm not interested in purposely injuring myself. Second, you still making the same argument-from-ignorance fallacy. You have to show that the brain cannot do it. You haven't not done so.(January 16, 2015 at 1:59 pm)Surgenator Wrote: So let me guess, you found a phenomena that you think (not proved) cannot be explained by the brain. Therefore, spirits. How do you know this cannot be explained by the brain? You admitted that you don't have the medical expertise to do so. For the record, neither do I. Yet you make the bold accertion that it can't. Your presenting a prime example of the argument-from-ignorance fallacy.Try yourself to perforate your body with a knife or something else and then tell your brain to not let you feel any pain and to close the cut as soon as you take the knife out.
Do you think your brain will listen to you?
Do you think your medical expertise would help you in any way to understand how the system works?
So how come that some people can do and other can not do?
Quote:So your going to appeal to your special knowledge. I always wondered how you would know the consciousness of people who are long dead. Are you suppose to be physic? What I mentioned can easily be varified while your claims are wishful thinking, nothing more.Quote:The wonderful past where people died from tooth decay and had a lifespace of 30 years. But now we have all this dirty air, water, and pesticides that prevents us progressing past the age of 30. Oh wait, we now live up to 80 years old. How is that not progress. How the fact that people have more leisure time today than in the past 100 years considered not progress. FYI, they didn't take viagra because they didn't live past 30. Viagra is for old people that are in the 50's and up.You never give up dreaming surgen.
The consciousness of people in the past was different from today consciousness.
Peace of mind is not related to having or not having a computer or as in the past to have or not having a cart with a pulling ox.
You could be 100% happy with a cart and 100% unhappy with a computer.
Peace of mind and happiness have nothing to do with material-physical possession or having a perfect body.
Beautiful and rich people commit suicide regardless of what they got, on the other hand you may find ugly and poor people happy with what they got.
Quote:I do explore where my happiness and peace of mind comes from. It comes from my friends, a good night sleep, interesting stories, and sometimes arguing with idiots. But what you want everyone to do is plainly stupid. You don't accept something just because it sounds cool. If that was the case, I would be visiting New York city to see all the super heroes.Quote:The reason why I don't believe in anything beyond the physical worlds is simple. There is no evidence for it.That is mental laziness.
Intelligent people would try to understand where happiness and peace of mind can be found.
It doesn't take long to understand that can not be found in this finite universe in which the positive and negative (yang and yin) always balance each other so they would look elsewhere rather than wait for father Christmas to bring the goodies.
Quote:Scientific evidence is a testible, repeatable experiment that gives consistent results independent of the user. Testinomials are not repeatable and defineatly not consistent. They also are heavily dependent on the experimentor. Hense they are not scientific evidence.Quote:WOW WOW WOW.
Since when your scientific evidence has been able to understand the supernatural world?Quote:There you go again, trying to change the subject. Prove that testimonials are scientific evidences.What is scientific surgen?
Does your idea of scientific is related to this physical world?
How do you know that this universe is not an illusion and the supernatural is?
Can your scientific evidence explain why some people don't feel any pain when they perforate their flesh?
So if your scientific evidence CAN NOT explain these facts then how can you rely on something that fail to understand this thing?
Don't you think that an intelligent person would think that is much better to rely on something that can explain these facts.
Please demonstrated how cannot explain why some people don't feel pain. Before you just assume that is the case.
Quote:All scientific hypothesis are falsifiable, including the null hypothesis. If you cannot create an experiment that falsifies the null hypothesis, then I don't need to believe in anything extra. You want us to first except your hypothesis and then find evidence for it. This is fundamentally backwards of how science works. Hense, it is not scientific, but pseudoscientific.Quote:See I told you don't understand the null hypothesis. My position is the null hypothesis. It is your job to prove that the null hypothesis isn't sufficient to explain the observations.Hypothesis are used by someone with an open mind not by someone that lock himself inside a corral of dogmas and doesn't allow anyone to enter and challenge his ideas as in your case.
As far as you insist that scientific evidence has to be related to this physical world then you automatically reject any hypothesis.