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What is wrong with this premise?

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What is wrong with this premise?
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RE: What is wrong with this premise?
January 18, 2015 at 4:22 am
(January 18, 2015 at 3:50 am)Darkstar Wrote:
(January 18, 2015 at 3:43 am)Heywood Wrote: Premise: Everything that has come into existence has had a cause.

What is wrong with the above premise?

We have never observed anything coming into existence that had a discernible cause, so we cannot say that this is true.
We have observed particles coming into existence without any definable cause, however: Quantum fluctuation

How do we know that these particles are not caused by existence, I.e. their cresttion is inherent within the physical laws of existence.
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What is wrong with this premise? - by Heywood - January 18, 2015 at 3:43 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Silver - January 18, 2015 at 3:48 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Darkstar - January 18, 2015 at 3:50 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by reiemdis - January 18, 2015 at 4:22 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Heywood - January 18, 2015 at 4:25 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by reiemdis - January 18, 2015 at 4:41 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Alex K - January 18, 2015 at 3:58 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Heywood - January 18, 2015 at 4:12 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Darkstar - January 18, 2015 at 4:15 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Heywood - January 18, 2015 at 4:21 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Mudhammam - January 18, 2015 at 4:58 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Darkstar - January 18, 2015 at 5:09 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Mudhammam - January 18, 2015 at 5:32 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Davka - January 19, 2015 at 4:53 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Mudhammam - January 18, 2015 at 4:06 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Cyberman - January 18, 2015 at 4:42 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Heywood - January 18, 2015 at 4:59 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by reiemdis - January 18, 2015 at 4:53 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by reiemdis - January 18, 2015 at 5:06 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by reiemdis - January 18, 2015 at 5:18 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by robvalue - January 18, 2015 at 5:30 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 18, 2015 at 5:55 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Heywood - January 18, 2015 at 1:46 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by helyott - January 18, 2015 at 2:19 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Darkstar - January 18, 2015 at 3:44 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Heywood - January 18, 2015 at 4:25 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Darkstar - January 18, 2015 at 4:49 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Heywood - January 19, 2015 at 3:29 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by helyott - January 19, 2015 at 4:06 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Heywood - January 19, 2015 at 4:13 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by helyott - January 19, 2015 at 4:33 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Heywood - January 19, 2015 at 4:36 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by helyott - January 19, 2015 at 4:48 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Chas - January 19, 2015 at 7:13 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Minimalist - January 24, 2015 at 3:52 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Chas - January 24, 2015 at 7:54 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by robvalue - January 18, 2015 at 6:18 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Ryantology - January 18, 2015 at 5:24 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Heywood - January 19, 2015 at 3:04 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Darkstar - January 20, 2015 at 10:03 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Heywood - January 20, 2015 at 1:22 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Davka - January 20, 2015 at 1:25 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Heywood - January 20, 2015 at 2:09 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by helyott - January 20, 2015 at 2:38 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Davka - January 20, 2015 at 3:21 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Mr.wizard - February 15, 2015 at 9:43 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Mudhammam - February 15, 2015 at 10:32 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by emilynghiem - February 15, 2015 at 6:24 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Mr.wizard - February 15, 2015 at 6:37 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Heywood - February 18, 2015 at 6:42 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by helyott - January 20, 2015 at 1:46 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Ryantology - January 22, 2015 at 2:02 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by robvalue - January 19, 2015 at 3:09 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Jenny A - January 19, 2015 at 9:55 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by robvalue - January 20, 2015 at 8:34 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Animated Earth - January 20, 2015 at 10:30 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Heywood - January 20, 2015 at 3:12 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Darkstar - January 20, 2015 at 6:45 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Heywood - January 21, 2015 at 4:28 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Angrboda - January 21, 2015 at 6:45 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by robvalue - January 20, 2015 at 1:24 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by AFTT47 - January 21, 2015 at 1:51 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Mister Agenda - January 21, 2015 at 6:49 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by wiploc - January 24, 2015 at 1:43 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Heywood - January 24, 2015 at 6:34 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by wiploc - January 29, 2015 at 1:04 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Heywood - January 24, 2015 at 3:16 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by IATIA - January 24, 2015 at 3:40 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Heywood - January 24, 2015 at 4:32 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by IATIA - January 24, 2015 at 8:22 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Minimalist - January 24, 2015 at 8:11 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by ManMachine - January 24, 2015 at 8:31 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Heywood - January 25, 2015 at 4:56 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Davka - January 25, 2015 at 2:09 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by ManMachine - January 25, 2015 at 9:07 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Whateverist - January 29, 2015 at 1:46 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by BlackMason - February 15, 2015 at 2:28 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by emilynghiem - February 15, 2015 at 5:22 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Heywood - February 18, 2015 at 6:22 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by robvalue - February 15, 2015 at 6:31 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by BlackMason - February 15, 2015 at 2:20 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Pizza - February 15, 2015 at 2:58 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by robvalue - February 15, 2015 at 6:31 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Cyberman - February 18, 2015 at 6:37 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by robvalue - February 18, 2015 at 6:39 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by robvalue - February 18, 2015 at 6:47 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Heywood - February 18, 2015 at 7:00 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Cyberman - February 18, 2015 at 6:57 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by robvalue - February 18, 2015 at 7:01 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Heywood - February 18, 2015 at 7:10 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by robvalue - February 18, 2015 at 8:05 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Heywood - February 18, 2015 at 3:28 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by IATIA - February 18, 2015 at 7:23 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Simon Moon - February 18, 2015 at 7:36 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Heywood - February 19, 2015 at 7:06 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by bennyboy - February 19, 2015 at 7:18 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by IATIA - February 19, 2015 at 7:39 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by bennyboy - February 19, 2015 at 7:43 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Pizza - February 19, 2015 at 9:39 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Heywood - February 20, 2015 at 7:01 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by bennyboy - February 20, 2015 at 7:08 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Heywood - February 20, 2015 at 9:06 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by bennyboy - February 21, 2015 at 3:34 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by robvalue - February 19, 2015 at 3:58 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by IATIA - February 19, 2015 at 8:18 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Dystopia - February 19, 2015 at 9:47 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Pizza - February 19, 2015 at 10:00 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Grandizer - February 20, 2015 at 9:35 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Pizza - February 20, 2015 at 11:00 pm
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by dennyg - February 20, 2015 at 2:46 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by robvalue - February 20, 2015 at 5:17 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by robvalue - February 20, 2015 at 6:43 am
RE: What is wrong with this premise? - by Pizza - February 20, 2015 at 9:19 pm

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