Where is the information stored?

[Esquilax]

@Esquilax: don't you think that e.g. the fundamental parameters are a kind of information which we can obtain from nature, but which is not concretely manifested in an object? That's why I say the whole enterprise has a Platonic vibe.

I guess? My point is, even those fundamental properties are physical expressions that we imbue with significance via observation. Whenever we get these "X thing contains information!" conversations, the conclusion generally heads toward an "information requires a designer!" deal, and that's where I find a problem because it makes the mistake of assuming information is created by intelligences, where in actuality it's observed and systematized by them. I don't want to have to explain that pattern recognition doesn't need all that much significance, in the end.