(January 17, 2015 at 2:47 pm)Surgenator Wrote: First off, I'm not interested in purposely injuring myself. Second, you still making the same argument-from-ignorance fallacy. You have to show that the brain cannot do it. You haven't not done so.
After a million or so years that man is man i never heard of anyone who under normal circumstances doesn't feel pain when they got hurt but again maybe in the next million years someone may not feel any pain so i will let you know.

Quote:So your going to appeal to your special knowledge. I always wondered how you would know the consciousness of people who are long dead. Are you suppose to be physic? What I mentioned can easily be varified while your claims are wishful thinking, nothing more.
Easy done surgen.
Suppose now i am X years old and i remember what i was feeling when i was 15 years old.
In those time there were no computers, no color tv (i guess) no mobile phones and so on but when my dad bought a pushbike i was up in heaven.
In those times not many people were lucky to own a pushbike but now what i would do with a pushbike?
Now i need a car to move around so what was paradise in the past is nothing these days but again in the future a car will be nothing because new mean of transport will be created so from here we can understand that consciousness is always related to the time in which we are living and there is a correlation between past and future.
Quote:I do explore where my happiness and peace of mind comes from. It comes from my friends, a good night sleep, interesting stories, and sometimes arguing with idiots. But what you want everyone to do is plainly stupid. You don't accept something just because it sounds cool. If that was the case, I would be visiting New York city to see all the super heroes.
Did you remember the quiz i gave in order to see whether you got peace of mind or not?
Try to remember surgen.

Quote:Scientific evidence is a testible, repeatable experiment that gives consistent results independent of the user. Testinomials are not repeatable and defineatly not consistent. They also are heavily dependent on the experimentor. Hense they are not scientific evidence.
Your so called full picture is incomplete.
We got evidence in the field of physical science and we also got evidence in the field of intuitional science.
All of them can be demonstrated.
Quote:Please demonstrated how cannot explain why some people don't feel pain. Before you just assume that is the case.
Your English is strange.
Wouldn't be better to say.........Please demonstrated why some people don't feel pain......
Anyway you can see with your own eyes. Just go and see one of these festival.
Quote:All scientific hypothesis are falsifiable, including the null hypothesis. If you cannot create an experiment that falsifies the null hypothesis, then I don't need to believe in anything extra. You want us to first except your hypothesis and then find evidence for it. This is fundamentally backwards of how science works. Hense, it is not scientific, but pseudoscientific.
You make it very very complicated.
All you have to do in order to see whether this physical-mental dimension bring or not peace of mind is whether it give a sense of total satisfaction or not.
Is this so complicated to understand?
