(January 20, 2015 at 1:22 pm)Heywood Wrote:(January 20, 2015 at 10:03 am)Darkstar Wrote: Okay, I'll bite. Let's say "reality" instead of "universe". So what you're saying is that god is exempt from cause and effect because he exists outside of reality? That makes sense. After all, if he's not real you can give him any attributes you want!
So, if we have to exclude something from cause and effect, why exclude a being and claim that he created reality rather than simply use a more direct approach and exclude reality itself?
The notion of God existing outside of reality is nonsensical. I never made that claim.....I never would make that claim.
Then does your "god" exist outside the universe?