(August 7, 2010 at 6:48 am)solja247 Wrote: Recently, the OT has been really bugging me, its theology is outdated. I dont give a dam what excuse, anyone uses, anyone who kill a innocent child/baby deserves to be hanged. God or human.If that god is really a good one, then he wouldn't have let all of humanity up until only 2000 years ago suffer through such horrible rules. Even after the jesus event, has the world been saved? Are there still any unsaved ones happening? New people being born only to eventually be tortured? Why?
Quote:I dont have the answers for everything but I know that God isnt like this, if God is, I would rather burn in hell.Well, if you do believe that a god created you, and if you also believe that it represents something good, like love or some general good purpose or meaning in life, I would define him yourself rather than go with any of the versions other humans have come up with so far, eg, every religion out there. That way, at least you are drawing on what you see as being morally good, etc. and not buying someone else's questionable morals as fact unquestioningly.
At the moment I dont know what to say, I would say the most logical thing is, is to throw the whole story out? but I dont know.
Quote:He died on the cross for me and you and that fact. I guess the only reason why I am a Christian is because of the evidence that Jesus rose from the dead and thus went to heaven, thats off topic anyways...What did he die to save you from? Your human nature that he endowed you with in the first place? The hell punishment that he himself chooses to inflict on people?
There is no evidence at all of anyone named Jesus rising from the dead or performing miracles back then by the way. The first writings of that story were decades and decades AFTER his supposed resurrection. Would you believe it if someone told you "My great grandad said he knew of someone who rose from the dead and was the son of god"?
Quote:Im sorry, I have never been scared of God. Fundies are, I am not.It's everywhere in the bible. He's jealous and vengeful. He even orders certain thoughts, making wrong ones a sin. You must worship, adore, praise, love, thank him, etc. There are many nonharmful 'crimes' including thought crimes, among the few harmful crimes, for which he will torture you forever. I'd have to cut and paste almost the entire bible though, to properly show you where it is. I'd be putting almost everything but the 'begat's in here.
Since you appear to know the personality of 'the god' I believe in, tell me what it is? Please quote the Bible to back up your claims and then provide evidence to show to me that the way you interpret those verses is correct.
I'm really shitty at giving kudos and rep. That's because I would be inconsistent in remembering to do them, and also I don't really want it to show if any favouritism is happening. Even worse would be inconsistencies causing false favouritisms to show. So, fuck it. Just assume that I've given you some good rep and a number of kudos, and everyone should be happy...