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Where is the information stored?
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RE: Where is the information stored?
(January 20, 2015 at 3:04 pm)Rhythm Wrote: The "universal mind" would need a specific structure and a persistent architecture to achieve computation as we know it. It doesn't seem to have either of those things as a whole, even though little pieces of it do seem to have them.


As an analogy, imagine what would happen to your computer if I was constantly moving the busses, constantly shifting around the gates on the cpu and breaking and reforming connections. Now imagine what would happen if I removed all of the bussing and gates, and just fed energy into, around, and across the computer. How much computation do you think it would achieve? The question being asked, simply, is whether or not "the universe" provides an adequate architecture for computation-as-mind (an even loftier loftier task than "just computation".. I think the answer is no, personally (if it were yes..it would be difficult to see why we needed computers, we ought to be able to pluck the computation out of the air..literally). Don't get me wrong, the requirements for computation are sometimes suprisingly low, but they do exist - and "being really big and having alot of stuff in it" doesn't actually get something any closer to meeting those requirements.

I agree with what you say, but I think you are looking at the physical make-up of the universe and asking the question: "can the universe think like a human brain?" You're imagining scientifically, and I am imagining wooishly - something like "the Force".
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Where is the information stored? - by Heywood - January 19, 2015 at 3:51 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by robvalue - January 19, 2015 at 3:54 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by psychoslice - January 19, 2015 at 3:54 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Alex K - January 19, 2015 at 3:59 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Heywood - January 19, 2015 at 4:02 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Alex K - January 19, 2015 at 4:07 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by robvalue - January 19, 2015 at 4:08 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Alex K - January 19, 2015 at 4:15 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Heywood - January 19, 2015 at 4:21 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Alex K - January 19, 2015 at 4:24 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Heywood - January 19, 2015 at 4:27 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Esquilax - January 19, 2015 at 11:03 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by robvalue - January 19, 2015 at 4:17 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Alex K - January 19, 2015 at 4:19 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Fidel_Castronaut - January 19, 2015 at 12:49 pm
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Davka - January 19, 2015 at 12:54 pm
RE: Where is the information stored? - by robvalue - January 19, 2015 at 4:21 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Alex K - January 19, 2015 at 4:46 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Heywood - January 19, 2015 at 3:34 pm
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Davka - January 19, 2015 at 4:44 pm
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Alex K - January 19, 2015 at 5:52 pm
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Heywood - January 20, 2015 at 3:52 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by dyresand - January 19, 2015 at 10:47 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Alex K - January 19, 2015 at 10:51 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Davka - January 19, 2015 at 10:55 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Heywood - January 19, 2015 at 2:47 pm
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Davka - January 19, 2015 at 3:08 pm
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Mister Agenda - January 20, 2015 at 2:11 pm
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Alex K - January 19, 2015 at 11:06 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Esquilax - January 19, 2015 at 12:28 pm
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Alex K - January 19, 2015 at 12:31 pm
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Davka - January 19, 2015 at 11:12 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Alex K - January 19, 2015 at 11:16 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Davka - January 19, 2015 at 11:36 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Alex K - January 19, 2015 at 11:40 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by The Grand Nudger - January 19, 2015 at 11:21 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Davka - January 19, 2015 at 11:38 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Whateverist - January 19, 2015 at 11:37 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Davka - January 19, 2015 at 11:42 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by SteelCurtain - January 19, 2015 at 12:34 pm
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Esquilax - January 19, 2015 at 1:34 pm
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Alex K - January 19, 2015 at 1:18 pm
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Chas - January 19, 2015 at 3:08 pm
RE: Where is the information stored? - by The Grand Nudger - January 19, 2015 at 3:36 pm
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Alex K - January 19, 2015 at 3:38 pm
RE: Where is the information stored? - by watchamadoodle - January 19, 2015 at 10:16 pm
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Alex K - January 20, 2015 at 3:57 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by watchamadoodle - January 20, 2015 at 10:12 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Thumpalumpacus - January 19, 2015 at 10:31 pm
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Alex K - January 20, 2015 at 10:47 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by watchamadoodle - January 20, 2015 at 12:17 pm
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Davka - January 20, 2015 at 1:58 pm
RE: Where is the information stored? - by watchamadoodle - January 20, 2015 at 2:51 pm
RE: Where is the information stored? - by The Grand Nudger - January 20, 2015 at 3:04 pm
RE: Where is the information stored? - by watchamadoodle - January 21, 2015 at 9:38 am
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Davka - January 21, 2015 at 3:34 pm
RE: Where is the information stored? - by popeyespappy - January 20, 2015 at 4:01 pm
RE: Where is the information stored? - by Alex K - January 21, 2015 at 9:54 am
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RE: Where is the information stored? - by The Grand Nudger - January 21, 2015 at 3:41 pm
RE: Where is the information stored? - by tantric - January 22, 2015 at 6:24 am
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