RE: Is 'God' An Atheist?
August 8, 2010 at 6:23 am
(This post was last modified: August 8, 2010 at 6:23 am by Edward the Theist.)
(August 8, 2010 at 6:01 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Richard Dawkins has answered the question about religious advantage.
But what is 'primordial conciousness' as you understand it?
Thanks, I'll check out that video.
As for primordial consciousness, I don't know. I have this idea (more like an obsession really) I can't shake it but I can't adequately describe it. It's like combining consciousness with eternity. And this will sound stupid, but I seem to get an idea of it if I imagine a white wall that is all I can see, and I am racing towards it at incredible speed, but I never get to it.
It's hard to explain, but one time I was walking on a flightline at an Air Force base ( I was in the AF at one time) and there was a C-5 aircraft parked there. The plane is so big that as you walk up to it, you think you are getting near to it only to realize your further away from it than you think. That's what the white wall is like.
And because the wall is white, and it's all you see, eventually you lose all memories, all sense of self, all reflection on ideas, everything and all there is is the racing toward the white. Then you are in an eternal moment that is completely atemporal. You are in a present moment, conscious without any awareness of self or anything else.
I say all of that simply to describe my notion of what I think it was like before the universe existed. I have no terminology for it at this time. I call it primordial consciousness (but I don't like that term), conscious/eternity, but that's not really good. I just don't know at this time.
I have demonstrable, repeatable evidence that consciousness does not exist in the brain, cannot in fact, as well as some serious thought experiments to go along with that. So I tend to believe consciousness (of a form) exists throughout the universe. I know that time is relative and illusory, and that everything is a present moment, so I know "eternity" is the real state of things.
And all of this is the void I find myself in. It's my work, so to speak.