(January 24, 2015 at 11:42 am)Davka Wrote: My brain is currently sending electro-chemical impulses to my fingers................
Please Davka WOULDN'T BE BETTER if you start from the beginning and say................AFTER I DECIDED TO start an action..........my brain is currently sending electro-chemical impulses to my fingers.............
Ok. now you can continue.
Quote:................which are striking specific keys on my keyboard. Those keys are, in turn, sending electrical impulses to my computer, which sends them to a server on which this forum is hosted.
Very good.
Now you are saying that everything started from your brain although i point out that they really started from YOU which you confuse for the brain.
Quote:The type you are reading exists in physical form as a series of magnetically-encoded analogues to zeros and ones. It exists in physical form as a pattern of light and dark pixels on your screen. And it originated in physical form in my physical brain, which is a meat-computer holding approximately the same amount of information as all the electronic computers in the world combined. Because the meat-computer which generated these text characters is far more complex than the Internet - is, in fact, more complex than anything else we have so far encountered in the Universe - it not only holds much of the information which I have assimilated during my lifetime, it also gives rise to the emergent property we know as "consciousness."
Now you enter the swamps and your body is stuck in the slough.
1)Talking, talking but you haven't demonstrated that the matter is able to start any action by itself and this is related to the fact that atheists believe that the universe made of matter can run without God.
2) Talking talking about the marvels and wonders of the mind as if the mind could start any action by itself or without YOU that decided to start the action.
3) Talking about consciousness when you haven't got a clue what the consciousness is as demonstrated when you think that the starter of the action is the brain.
Sorry Dav but this is a total disaster.

Quote:NDEs are not what you keep claiming they are. When our brains are shutting down and near death, there are a number of physical activities occurring which are quite unusual in day-to-day life. These activities include oxygen deprivation; endorphin-induced euphoria; noradrenaline production; and faulty sensory information.
All these activities do not explain how a blind person can see things perfectly during the NDE.
Again all your talking means absolutely nothing.

Quote:History tells the same story over and over: People form irrational explanations for unknown phenomena, driven by our brains' evolutionarily-programmed need to know. Later, science develops the tools to explore these phenomena in detail, eventually discovering the actual explanation. This has happened over and over again, and every single time, the explanation has tuned out to be natural. Not once has a mysterious phenomenon been studied rigorously and turned out to have a supernatural cause. Therefore, the most rational and probable explanation for any unknown phenomenon is likely to be natural rather than supernatural. We're in the midst of studying NDEs, and so far all the explanations are - wait for it - natural.
Wrong again.
Science has never explained how a real guru can send someone into samadhi just by touching his-her head or how someone can insert a knife into his flesh without feeling any pain and how the hole close as soon as the knife is taken out.
