(January 26, 2015 at 11:10 am)Davka Wrote: [quote='Riketto' pid='856148' dateline='1422275566']
2) If the NDEs are hallucinations how come that most people if not all after such an experience they now believe in God, they now have compassion for animals and become vegetarian, and how come that they are now not anymore afraid of dying and now believe in spirituality?
Quote:I can find ZERO evidence for these claims.
However, I did find an interesting study of NDE experiences in Southern India. Turns out that people in India who have NDEs have completely different hallucinations from those in North America. There are some superficial similarities, but the experiences all - without exception - incorporate details specific to the prevalent "afterlife" superstitions common in India, rather than those which are common in the West.
What's more, only 35% of people who reported NDEs in the U.K. reported having a belief in anything resembling "god" as a result of their experience.
It is, unfortunately, very difficult to find credible research on the subject. The field is crowded with nutjobs and woo-salespeople, all offering nonsense and hand-waving as if it somehow constituted research.
Here's what the Skeptic's Dictionary has to say on the subject.
Here's an article reporting that NDE's are likely due to electrical surges in the brain.
The only actual research on the topic (that is, research which follows scientific protocol) contradicts all your claims. Serious scientific research of NDEs is pretty thin on the ground, probably because the woo-meisters have inundated the field with so much BS that it's impossible to get a grant to do an actual rigorous study.
You can't really get out the mental swamps in which you are, do you Davka?
Interesting how the links you gave me say.........We reasoned that if near-death experience stems from brain activity...........
You see how these researchers keep on thinking that the NDEs may come from brain activities excluding therefore the possibility that they may come from the consciousness.
In the same link it say.............it has been unclear as to whether the brain is able to produce these senses during clinical death..................
So they are not sure whether the NDEs are generated from the brain and at the same time keep on studying the brain so how the hell it is possible to find the truth in case the brain has nothing to do with NDE?
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/264740.php
In the next link it say............We can't assume that those who report NDEs had an NDE. Nor can we be sure that only those who report having had an NDE actually had one. .........
This is very interesting.
This open the way and the possibilities that a lot of NDEs are not real NDEs but a rejection for the individual to see God so in this case their frustration may have give way to bad feeling which somebody may call them hallucinations.
http://www.skepdic.com/nde.html
The last link say.............We had argued in that paper that the difference in features between the two cultures may be due to the effects of one's own beliefs regarding life after death and that some of the experiences may seem different in details of description
but on closer examination, found to be similar in nature. .......
This once again contradict your belief that there is a big difference between cultures.
Sorry Davka but if you want to make a point you got to present a lot more evidence which is something that so far you have failed to produce.


