RE: Battleground God
August 9, 2010 at 3:49 pm
(This post was last modified: August 9, 2010 at 3:52 pm by In This Mind.)
(August 6, 2010 at 5:40 am)Tiberius Wrote: It evidently doesn't fly with you; that was obvious from the outcome of the test.
Evolution is a scientific fact, yes. To say that a scientific fact is the same as "truth" is on the same level of misunderstanding as the creationists who argue that Evolution is "only a theory".
Your statements in the test reveal that you require a higher standard of proof for belief in God than for evolution, which means you have a biased worldview.
Would you use the same criteria to judge what is a good wine versus what is a good airplane? Of course not. Your standards may not be 'higher' for one than the other, but they would be different.
Evolution is not an 'absolute'. The idea can grow and adapt and encompasses a variety of concepts that all work alongside the same ends. Plants and animals both 'evolve' but do not both evolve in the same way. Evolution is not a simple case of 'either it is or it isn't', it is much more complex than that and thus can accept the situation that we are still working to understand the finer details and may not yet have a proper understanding or even knowledge of some of the ways evolution can work. It is a complex study. Sharks have existed alongside other species relatively unchanged for eons while other species are unrecognizable from their ancestors in less than a year. The overview of the process is factual, the how and whys of the individual details require further study simply because we do not yet possess a way of getting all the data, let alone of turning that data into information.
God on the other hand, is simple. It is an absolute. There are no 'degrees'. Either god exists, or god does not exist.
To offer an analogy, on one hand, you ask me 'does wine come from grapes?' The answer is yes. I may not be able to produce the exact same results every time due to the multitude of other factors. Heck, some years I may not even get anything resembling drinkability and from time to time the experiment must be abandoned before the end result can be termed 'wine'. And I'm still just beginning to understand how to get the best yield and how to make the other factors work to my advantage. But is wine made from grapes? Yes.
You hold out your open right hand and ask me 'is there a crayon in my right hand?' There are no other factors at play. All of the information needed to answer the question is right there.
So there we have it, there is the difference. You can claim that wine is made from grapes and I will accept that as true even if we are having grape juice at the time and standing in a wine cellar full of exploded bottles. Just because that experiment failed to produce the expected results doesn't mean your claim is untrue. But if you tell me that there is a crayon in your right hand, there had better be a crayon in your right hand.
With god, the only answers are 'true' and 'false'. With evolution, the answer could easily be 'yes, it is true, but it turns out it didn't quite work the way we thought it did, and doesn't quite mean what we thought it meant'