(August 9, 2010 at 10:04 pm)In This Mind Wrote: There is your mistake.Pointing out a "mistake" and yet not even explaining or refuting my point. Well done.
Quote:Ah, the 'what if' fallacy. One of my personal favorite bits of BS.It is not a fallacy, mainly because I was using it in a way to show you that your statement *could* be wrong. A "what if" fallacy takes the form "What if X, then you must do Y". Never did I insinuate that we shouldn't disbelieve evolution because "what if the universe was made last thursday".
The Last Thursday argument has been used by philosophers before. It isn't new. Unless you can disprove it via a logical argument, your whining about logical fallacies that I haven't even committed are just going to annoy me.
Quote:Sorry, but if you are willing to subscribe to that particular bit of BS, then you are not an atheist for you have no logical or rational reason not to believe in god.I am an atheist, and I do have rational reasons not to believe in god. I make no secrets about the assumptions of my worldview though, which apparently you do. I openly admit that I cannot know anything for sure unless such "knowledge" is a deduction from the laws of logic. I am an agnostic atheist in this regard. I work under the assumption that the things I experience are real, unless evidence arises to the contrary. Why do I work under this assumption? Well, because I find it hard to live properly if I don't. As such, I have no experience of anything vaguely resembling what other people have called "God", and so I do not believe.
Quote:In fact, if your willing to subscribe to that particular bit of BS, then you have to concede that I am god. You have no way to philosophically prove that I am not....and you chide me on fallacies. Perhaps you were not aware, but it is a fallacy to suggest that because something cannot be proven, it must be true. No, I can't prove you aren't God. Does that mean you are? No.
Quote:Sorry, sweetcakes, but it is not enough to claim you are 'logical' and that is enough. You must also be rational. Unless you are willing to offer a counter-example that is also rational, then we aren't having a debate, for I don't debate with fundies....and not only do you refuse to respond to my points properly, you call me a fundie. Nice. Really nice.
Excuse me whilst I take the moral high ground on this one, and let you go on your merry way.