Detecting design or intent in nature

[bennyboy]

......Any system not man-made is not known to require intellect....

Lets look bird nest evolution. Pendulous nests evolved from pensile nests. Pensile nests evolved from cup nests. The evolution from cup nest to pendulous nest happened over thousands of generations. It is not a man made system, but it required the intellect of the bird. Your claim that all systems which appear to require intellect are man made is false.

If you accept Chas's definiton of biological evolution, "the imperfect replication of replicators" you cannot then say birds nest evolution is biological evolution. Birds nests do not reproduce.

Okay, if you want to call bird actions "intellect," then it's no sweat off my nose. I'd call them "instinct," but whatever. Can I assume that you are trying to introduce a slippery slope, and that you will call organized formations of plants "intellect," and then perhaps snowflakes, then anything which intelligently responds to gravity by falling toward things?



Your God-leading assertions are still busted, and for the same reasons.

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I suggest you contemplate why no one accepts your argument as valid.

Doing so would require them to consider rejecting their atheism and they are afraid to do that.

People are generally not afraid of rejecting their non-beliefs about the reality of fairy tales. Are you afraid of rejecting your lack of belief in Space Monkey Bobo and his cosmos-forming poo-flinging?

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We could make the next 90 pages go by quicker if we condense everything to "heywood, ur wrong" and "no u r."

No no no. We're not allowed to finish this thread until we have all of: cat memes, animated masturbation smilies, references to Hitler, a challenge to a 1-on-1 debate which is accepted and then "postponed" permanently with sudden claims of burdensome (and crucially important) schoolwork, and at least one use of the Ban Hammer in the sky. Where's your forum spirit?