(August 11, 2010 at 5:52 am)solja247 Wrote: The probability of God's existence is more likely than unlikely.I don't see that as being the case. I have no reason whatsoever to see the christian god's existance as being more or less likely than any other god or fantasy I or others can come up with.
(August 11, 2010 at 5:52 am)solja247 Wrote: FSM has no likelyhood of existing. We just cant logically disprove it.Then how can God have any greater likelyhood of existing than the FSM.
(August 11, 2010 at 5:52 am)solja247 Wrote: The fine tuning and cosmological arguements both increase the likelyhood of God existing. You can say I disagree but the thing is these two arguements prove Gods existence is more probable than FSM.
The cosmological arguement, such that as I understand it when it was explained to me fully on another thread, does not explain in any way the likelyhood of the existance of any such being - especially which being it is consdering that the Universe is more than 13 billion years old and the concept of a christian god is only a few millenia old and that concept has changed a great deal over over that time based on social norms and differing living conditions. The fact is, the cosmological arguement doesn't explain anything. It attempts to explain that the universe is created because of a 'first cause' but fails to make any logical connection to any actual 'first cause' and what made it based on anything.
As such, the Flying Spagetti Monster, despite being a far more recent concept, is just as likely.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
