RE: A Conscious Universe
February 4, 2015 at 6:36 pm
(This post was last modified: February 4, 2015 at 6:38 pm by ManMachine.)
(February 4, 2015 at 1:10 pm)Surgenator Wrote: I don't know what you mean in perpetual quantum flux. Are you saying show me that an electron is still an electron at some later time? Or are you expecting the electron to disappear from existence at any moment?
Sorry for the repeat reply my 'full edit' took a bit longer than I expected.
You defined 'things' as distinct from processes, like this;
"A process REQUIRES interactions, things do NOT."
I'm saying 'things' DO require interactions at a QM level constantly. I am asserting your definition of a 'thought process' as distinct from a 'thing' is entirely spurious at a QM level.
A 'thought process' is no different from any other process and every 'thing' is made up of Quantum processes that are continuous (a state of quantum flux). I then challenged you to identify anything that is not made up of quantum processes in order to validate your definition and prove your point.
As for that electron...
"... are you expecting the electron to disappear from existence at any moment?"
As I said above, I am, because that's exactly what they do.
MM
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"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)
