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If faith works how every religion says it works......
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RE: If faith works how every religion says it works......
(August 12, 2010 at 10:30 am)Thor Wrote: You mean "revival leaders" like Peter Popoff and Jimmy Swaggart?

No, more like Whitefield, Wesley, Seymour, etc


Quote:I've never seen a "miracle".

And?

Quote:And why is it that this deity has never performed a miracle where someone's missing limb was replaced?

Red herring

Quote:Not true at all! Go get a dead body and pray to Jesus for that body to come back to life. If life is restored to that body, I'll definitely believe!

The demons believe and tremble. I asked if you would serve him.

Quote:And you have no proof that "Jesus" ever truly existed.

Well then the Gospel writers were lying, which it is up to you to prove, per legal slander/libel rules


Quote:Let's look again at what is written: "He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also" Says nothing about this comment being restricted to the disciples!

Heh. It's the disciples but it doesn't matter because you don't believe anyway. And of course leading far more people to Jesus than he did himself answers the questions. It doesn't say "miracles." That is merely a convenient assumption. Besides as I said, miracles are not the primary goal of the Gospel, at all.

Quote:And this is bullshit! If "Jesus" truly answered prayers we would see the results! Even if people weren't testing him, we would notice that a significantly higher percentage of (for example) cancer patients recovered when they prayed to Jesus as compared to people who didn't pray to Jesus. Nice try, though.

Over 20 years, there was a 40% reduction in the prison population of England and Wales after the revival that began in Wales around 1905. This is the only data collected like that, by an independent entity. But we have annecdotal testimony coming out the wazoo, like miners taxing themselves ot build libraries. (Another greater work) We have you rposter boy Franklim marveling at "the change soon made in our citizens" of Philadelphia. (Another greater work)



Quote:"Oh, Lord Jesus. We ask humbly in your name that all the blind people on Earth, and those with impaired eyesight, be given 20/20 vision by noon Eastern time on August 13, 2010. We ask for your grace in this humble request. Amen."

That oughta do it! If what you believe is true, I would expect that there will be millions of people rejoicing in the next 24 hours.

1. Works isn't necessarily miracles.

2. I would be merely testing God.

Do you grasp at all why Jesus didn't do what the devil said he should when he was on the mountain????



Quote:If some guy claimed to be Jesus and walked through hospitals healing people with a touch of his hand, and this was absolutely verified, then, yes, I would believe in Jesus. Would I serve him? What would that entail? Because I already live a moral life, give to charity, help people when I can and serve my community.

I could pretty well guess your answer. I've been doing this awhile, off and on, to see how well I can still answer any question/argument, and to balance a horribly biased, revisionist and illogical approach to fact finding

I don't mean this as a cut at all, but you're too self-righteous to be a follower, at the moment. Isn't that fair to say, not just of you but any unbeliever? Read the Sermon on the Mount and tell us how much imputed righteousness you would need to live up to it. Personally I need a huge amount.




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RE: If faith works how every religion says it works...... - by RAD - August 12, 2010 at 10:58 am

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