(February 5, 2015 at 12:55 pm)Lek Wrote: Why do you believe otherwise when science has not been able to create a material being and make it live?
Because "science can't X" is not positive evidence for your claim; just because one thing can't do something, doesn't mean it's impossible for all things. Meanwhile, the physical readily exists and is demonstrable with ease; if I have evidence for one thing, and shifty fallacious arguments to get around the lack of evidence for another thing, then probabilistically it's more likely that the thing with evidence is true, rather than the thing for whom the proponents have to try and con us into believing. That's just rational.
Quote: Are you not basing your opinion on ignorance?
No, because my opinion is probabilistic and recognizes the limits of our current knowledge without attempting to overreach the way yours does. I attribute a higher probability to physically derived life because all the components of that can easily be shown to exist, whereas the additional parts you claim, are not. Show me some evidence, not fallacies, and I'll change my mind.
All of this is completely separate from the larger point, which is that a tu coque fallacy does not excuse your egregious argument from ignorance. Even if you were completely right and I was doing it too- you're not, but if you were- that wouldn't suddenly make it okay for you to do it. A fallacy doesn't become reasonable when multiple people do it; I'm surprised how often I need to explain this basic concept to christians, but two wrongs do not make a right.
Quote: A living being has something within it that all the same materials, simply assembled, do not have.
Yes: a biological birth and molecular construction within the womb that we haven't yet been able to replicate. Just because we can't perfectly replicate nature yet, doesn't mean that magic is involved.
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