(August 13, 2010 at 4:18 am)tackattack Wrote: I haven't discounted anything you've said directly so far and due to the subjectiveness of experience I'm willing to grant great leway. But, how exactly do you have an experience of not having an experience? If we're not rationalizing beliefs, then I'll assume here that experience preceeds analysis. If you never experienced anything and conclude that the default position is "no God exists" because no explination has arrisen; that's one thing and perfectly fine. If you're saying you've actually experienced something that disproves God, that's something entirely different. If you've had any experience with god at all doesn't that lend more credibility towards the existence of God then? Wouldn't the rest then be rationalization to deny that evidence. Those are supposition to your thought process, but I'm just answering your questions and trying to figure out where your questions are going.So my experience was in church pre athiesm of there being nothing there an emptiness or void if you will. All subsequent experiences, for example of joy or comfort, in my life have arisen at times when I was in contact with other humans and as a result of those relationships. I have put all these experiences down to my own personal emotion. But if you claim as evidence that people experience a presence or apprehend god in some other way, then you have to allow my non apprehension and a Muslims apprehension of Allah and Mohammed and a Hindus apprehension of ginesh and a buddhists apprehension of the Buddha ( though not a god). So as evidence it leads you nowhere.
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Personal experience - by Captain Scarlet - August 12, 2010 at 5:53 pm
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RE: Personal experience - by tackattack - August 13, 2010 at 4:18 am
RE: Personal experience - by Captain Scarlet - August 13, 2010 at 6:02 am
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RE: Personal experience - by Captain Scarlet - August 14, 2010 at 4:25 am
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Personal experience II - the sequel - by Captain Scarlet - August 16, 2010 at 6:23 pm
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