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Atheists: Facing the unfaceable
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable
(February 7, 2015 at 3:02 pm)Esquilax Wrote:
(February 6, 2015 at 10:03 pm)Lek Wrote: Would you bet your life on that statement?

Do you often resort to threatening people when you can't come up with a rebuttal?

I don't if it's true in Australia, but where I'm from that's a common way of asking how sure somebody is about their point. I'm not saying anything like he should die if he is incorrect or something like that.

(February 7, 2015 at 3:10 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Gosh, where is this overweening concern for evidence when it comes to your god? And it's not that we "can't prove it scientifically" -- it's that we haven't yet done so. Believe me, it will happen, and perhaps in our lifetimes.

At any rate -- we know for a fact that life relies on the principle of emergent properties, because, for instance, if you take salt out of someone's diet entirely, they will die. We also know that chemicals will spontaneously interact with each other based on proximity and valence. We also know that some chemical reactions are autocatalytic. We know that precursor chemicals existed in copious amounts on earth. And we know that they will form spontaneously in conditions similar to those pertaining shortly after Earth's formation.

This means that chemistry is much likelier an explanation than deity. Attempting to equate belief that abiogenesis can explain life's origin to belief that a supernatural deity did it is simply more evidence of your scientific illiteracy. One belief has a rational basis. The other, none at all.

Actually, I never have been much into the "hard sciences". There are also many other "scientific illiterates" who view this forum and I just wanted to bring out the point that scientists don't know if life developed naturally from inanimate materials.
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Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Strider - January 23, 2015 at 10:55 am
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Napoléon - January 23, 2015 at 11:08 am
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by JohnTheRevolator - February 5, 2015 at 9:15 am
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by FatAndFaithless - February 5, 2015 at 9:17 am
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Esquilax - February 5, 2015 at 11:51 am
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by JuliaL - January 23, 2015 at 11:12 am
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Tonus - January 23, 2015 at 11:12 am
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by robvalue - January 23, 2015 at 11:13 am
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Alex K - January 23, 2015 at 11:15 am
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Whateverist - January 23, 2015 at 11:46 am
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by robvalue - January 23, 2015 at 11:51 am
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Whateverist - January 23, 2015 at 11:53 am
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by dyresand - January 24, 2015 at 9:10 am
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by robvalue - January 23, 2015 at 11:55 am
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Davka - January 23, 2015 at 1:28 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by h4ym4n - January 23, 2015 at 1:49 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by robvalue - January 23, 2015 at 2:31 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by LastPoet - January 23, 2015 at 3:00 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Whateverist - January 23, 2015 at 8:19 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Davka - January 23, 2015 at 3:38 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Norman Humann - January 23, 2015 at 3:38 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Davka - January 23, 2015 at 3:45 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Norman Humann - January 23, 2015 at 4:07 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by JuliaL - January 23, 2015 at 6:06 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Darkstar - January 23, 2015 at 6:07 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by zebo-the-fat - January 23, 2015 at 5:51 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Angrboda - January 23, 2015 at 6:31 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Strider - January 23, 2015 at 6:46 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Angrboda - January 23, 2015 at 6:59 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Strider - January 23, 2015 at 9:12 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by The Grand Nudger - January 23, 2015 at 9:05 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by robvalue - January 24, 2015 at 7:12 am
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Davka - January 24, 2015 at 10:18 am
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by h4ym4n - January 25, 2015 at 7:50 am
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by dyresand - January 25, 2015 at 4:28 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by robvalue - January 25, 2015 at 7:01 am
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Lek - February 4, 2015 at 1:20 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Surgenator - February 4, 2015 at 1:38 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Tonus - February 4, 2015 at 1:40 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Chas - February 4, 2015 at 2:04 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Lek - February 4, 2015 at 5:33 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Cato - February 4, 2015 at 5:54 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Lek - February 4, 2015 at 6:05 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Cato - February 4, 2015 at 6:30 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Chas - February 4, 2015 at 6:07 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Lek - February 4, 2015 at 6:22 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Chas - February 4, 2015 at 6:27 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Lek - February 4, 2015 at 6:31 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Chas - February 4, 2015 at 6:34 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Lek - February 4, 2015 at 6:44 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Chas - February 4, 2015 at 7:27 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Lek - February 4, 2015 at 7:33 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Chas - February 4, 2015 at 7:44 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Lek - February 4, 2015 at 8:29 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Whateverist - February 4, 2015 at 10:30 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Lek - February 5, 2015 at 12:48 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Chas - February 5, 2015 at 8:17 am
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Faith No More - February 5, 2015 at 12:18 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Esquilax - February 5, 2015 at 12:25 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Lek - February 5, 2015 at 12:55 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Esquilax - February 5, 2015 at 1:06 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Lek - February 5, 2015 at 1:25 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Chas - February 5, 2015 at 1:34 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Esquilax - February 5, 2015 at 1:34 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Lek - February 5, 2015 at 2:28 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Esquilax - February 5, 2015 at 2:50 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Thumpalumpacus - February 5, 2015 at 2:45 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Lek - February 5, 2015 at 7:08 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Esquilax - February 5, 2015 at 7:52 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Chas - February 5, 2015 at 8:59 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Lek - February 6, 2015 at 10:03 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Lek - February 6, 2015 at 10:21 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Chas - February 7, 2015 at 7:10 am
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Lek - February 7, 2015 at 1:12 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Chas - February 7, 2015 at 8:37 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Thumpalumpacus - February 7, 2015 at 2:21 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Lek - February 7, 2015 at 2:33 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Thumpalumpacus - February 7, 2015 at 3:10 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Esquilax - February 7, 2015 at 3:02 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Lek - February 7, 2015 at 4:09 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Thumpalumpacus - February 7, 2015 at 8:03 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Esquilax - February 7, 2015 at 8:51 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Whateverist - February 8, 2015 at 12:54 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Thumpalumpacus - February 7, 2015 at 2:17 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by The Grand Nudger - February 4, 2015 at 1:59 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Strider - February 4, 2015 at 9:59 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by The Grand Nudger - February 4, 2015 at 5:40 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Surgenator - February 4, 2015 at 7:12 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Lek - February 4, 2015 at 7:26 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by The Grand Nudger - February 4, 2015 at 7:27 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by The Grand Nudger - February 4, 2015 at 7:50 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Whateverist - February 4, 2015 at 9:40 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by The Grand Nudger - February 4, 2015 at 10:31 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Thumpalumpacus - February 5, 2015 at 3:58 am
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Cato - February 5, 2015 at 9:45 am
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Thumpalumpacus - February 5, 2015 at 2:40 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Mudhammam - February 5, 2015 at 4:12 am
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Thumpalumpacus - February 5, 2015 at 5:51 am
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by robvalue - February 5, 2015 at 6:52 am
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Faith No More - February 5, 2015 at 12:27 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by FatAndFaithless - February 5, 2015 at 12:52 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by FatAndFaithless - February 5, 2015 at 1:29 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by robvalue - February 5, 2015 at 1:41 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Faith No More - February 5, 2015 at 2:41 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by robvalue - February 7, 2015 at 5:41 am
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Lek - February 7, 2015 at 1:57 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Surgenator - February 7, 2015 at 1:54 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by robvalue - February 7, 2015 at 2:12 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by Lek - February 7, 2015 at 2:17 pm
RE: Atheists: Facing the unfaceable - by robvalue - February 7, 2015 at 2:19 pm

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