(February 8, 2015 at 10:42 am)Riketto Wrote: As far as you are happy with 2 horses (body& mind) and that physical science can deliver the goods go for it.That's the great thing. I don't have to "go for it." What you or I state about the matter doesn't change the truth about the matter. But making up stuff about it in the quest for some greater prize that is no more real than your analogies makes no sense to me. None at all. This forum is full of examples of people who fill the gaps in our understanding of the world with gods and ghosts and spirits and who sneer at anyone who demands something more than "I said so" or "I read it in this dusty old book." They're all just as certain as you are that their version is the right one, and that you have it wrong. And all they have are crazy analogies and stunted reasoning, too.
Meanwhile, real science (not the intuitional, spiritual, or nonsensical sciences) continues to do stuff. Invent stuff. Learn stuff. Improve stuff. They can do that because that science has to be testable, repeatable, and verifiable. Then it can be developed and improved, and we wind up with cures for diseases, or ways to filter water, or a more comfortable chair, or a computer that allows you to communicate with people around the world at the speed of electronic signals. They're the guys who will eventually explain NDEs and then you'll have to find some other "proof" of the separation of the mind and body. And then they'll explain that one, too.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould