RE: So did Atheism + bite the dust?
February 8, 2015 at 7:42 pm
(This post was last modified: February 8, 2015 at 7:54 pm by Dystopia.)
Quote:I am noticing a lot of repetition in your post, so I am going to condense it down and get to the core.Repetition is what you've been doing
Quote:Seriously, you keep bringing up ''Conservative'' despite the fact that I cited a link of that same Feminist saying she is a registered Democrat with Libertarian values? And also the fact that she is an established Feminist with over 40 years work with a P.H.D opposed to third-wave bloggers like Anita Sarkeesian and Brianna Wuu, who are frauds hijacking Feminism.I don't give a shit about her, I give a shit about the source - The American Enterprise Institute that is certainly not the best source to evaluate how thigns work.
Quote:On the topic of Conservatives - Conservatives hate Gamers. If you look at the history, they have been more towards regulating gaming and FOX News, which is right-wing propaganda has always hated on Gaming.Yes but they love gender roles and hate women - Therefore anything that promotes gender roles is in their agenda
Quote:She is not just a ''woman'' --- CH Sommers was a Feminist when Feminism was actually much more relevant in the 1970s; her credentials far outweigh Anita Sarkeesian, so to think she has ''zero knowledge'' on perceptions of females is quite frankly, ridiculous and unfounded in reality.- Your opinion on the feminist movement and its necessity is irrelevant, because I've seen enough sexism in life to conclude it is necessary
- Credentials don't matter, her criticism in the video lacks critical thinking on how media works.
Quote:...CH Sommers also did her research, which is what the video was, an evaluation of opposing views.Conservatives do research all the time.
Quote:...Did you watch the video?There is numerous evidence on how media affects our perception. The Feminine Mystique by 2nd wave feminist Betty Friedan is a good start on this topic and it shows how media back in the 50's/60's portrayed women as housewives and because of that they were raised to believe they should be housewives.
Quote:No...this idea and false myth of ''Gaming causes violence!'' has been proven wrong study after study. I'm not sure how many it will take to finally convey that violent Games do not = real life violence. Accusing doesn't mean evidence.But violence is not endorsed by games specifically - Many times it is strategic and the game doesn't promote violence and show it as acceptable
In stealth games you are benefited to not use violence and avoid enemy contact
In games like COD it is war so it's justified to use violence for survival
In Resident Evil you fight zombies
In GTA you can use violence but the goal is to have fun and have freedom to do everything you want. Violence is a side effect
Quote:The Psychological Bulletin in 2010 published their report that video games causing violence has little to no evidence and is simply a scare tactic used by politicians and the media.I never said it causes - I said irresponsible immature people could be compelled to practice violence because of games - But this happens to any form of media. A guy killed some people and claimed it was because of Dexter series - Is this Dexter's fault? No, but that person shouldn't be exposed to such medium
Quote:No. This is an Anita Sarkeesian talking point which has no evidence whatsoever; recent gamings have illustrates that female protagonists and characters actually kicking ass. You know, female SPARTANS in Halo or Chun Li in Street-Fighter. Or the ability to play as Catwoman and what-not in the Arkham Games.- Those are exceptions but most protagonists are male
- And female characters are still portrayed excessively hot compared to male counterparts.
Quote:No. See the examples given.No, if you really think men are not more important as characters in videogames you should revise your standards. Most characters are men, specially protagonists, as well as villains, women are less important and have secondary roles. If you think this is a lie, check a list of AAA titles.
Quote:This really has no substantiation. Nor is it relevant.Make me a list of white male characters and one of non white male characters.
Quote:Excuse me?LOL - I can name several men in games that don't fit the beauty standard - Mr.47, Gordon Freeman are good examples - Plus men in videogames may be fit but their skills are 1000 times more relevant and important than their bodies. Female characters may have some skills but the important given to make perfect bodies is overhelming and always follows the same pattern of unrealistic beauty.
The vast majority of men in video games are 6ft + males with ripped six packs and ultimate Kung-Fu skills. Is this realistic? No. It's a Feminist double standard.
Men in games have varied beauties and not all of them fit the ideal of attractiveness - For example C.Redfield in RE5 is criticized for having excess of muscles since it's not realistic and characters like the ones pointed and others, including secondary characters (just think of Otacon from Metal gear) don't fit the ideal of beauty. The point is precisely that men can be hot but the power and traits they have are more important, while female characters have much more value attributed to their beauty and the developers care excessively about how they look.
Quote:Women have fit bodies in games because to actually run around and do backflips, you need to be in shape. Gaming is an escape fantasy.You have not debunked anything my friend, bringing up some conservative sources doesn't help your course. Can you find me any reliable study that actually points out impartially your claims (i.e. One that isn't biased by political viewpoints)?
Essentially the rest of your post has been debunked with contrary evidence; and quite frankly, is repeating the same cliche.
Quote:Cultural Marxism is not anti-semitic. It has nothing to do with Jews. Marxism has nothing to do with Judaism. Marxism is an ideology. Judaism is a religion.Yes it is, google cultural marxism and you'll see how many white supremacist images appear. Seriously do it.
Quote:Men's problems are not caused by gender roles --- they are caused by a number of factors, but women do abuse their power over men for sure when exploiting their gender role to take custody of children. This is a double standard the MRA fight.Actually men's issues are caused by gender roles, ALL of them. Oh really? And why do they take custody? Because men --> Strong hardworking and breadwinners; women ---> caregivers, mothers and submissive --> Therefore women keep children because it's their job, while men work and are not good with children. Do you see the gender roles here? if so, you have to recognize that the reason women get more custody is because they are affected by double standards.
Quote:Essentially, I approve of MRA's --- and I don't think Feminism needs beta-white knight males.I don't think the world needs MRA's and awfully sexist men.
Let's take a look at reality. MRA's:
- Claim rape is a scam by women and that fake rape accusations are more prevalent
- Complain about advantages given to women by men while they have far more advantages
- Support websites like returnofkigns that is full of sexist people
- Complain about women being evil bitches and gold diggers
- Some of them, like The Amazing Atheist, insult and ridicule victims of rape
- Think slut-shaming and insulting women is ok
Now look at this article and tell me honestly which movement is better equipped to deal with men's issues. It's not MRA's certainly - I refuse to have that group representing me. I don't need it, mostly because I'm already to favoured in society for being male. I don't have downsides that are relevant, I'll probably not be raped with so much frequency, I don't have to fit to obsessive beauty standards and diet cultures motivated by profit that exploits women, etc...
Also, check out this article that debunks MRA's completely
And also this
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you