(February 8, 2015 at 7:58 pm)TheMessiah Wrote: I'm simply going to have to walk away here from this specific debate. There's simply not going to be any resolve between our ideological differences.This is not about being ideological - it's about knowing at least who you should not support. In my country there are not MRA's but the fact is they do a lot of terrible shit. The articles I linked explain it... On the other hand you're saying that this ideology known as atheism + was increasing but I see no proof of it. most atheists will probably be liberal but not too liberal, just in the middle. Someone said they were 150 or something like that members online at the most - On other atheist forums it can be something like 5000 members online. It's not comparable.
(February 8, 2015 at 7:15 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Why are we asking if atheism+ bit the dust? Did something happen or is it just that membership is down?
Well from what I recall it was gaining momentum but now membership has died.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you