(February 13, 2015 at 5:29 pm)Heywood Wrote:(February 13, 2015 at 5:09 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: I don't see how you came to the conclusion that those require intellect? Have you observed this intellect? Whos mind is it coming from? Have you observed this intellect actively guiding all change over every species at all times? If you could even begin to establish that such an intelligence exists them maybe we can talk about what requires it.
You really need to read this thread because all your question have been asked and answered several times. The question isn't whether or not intellect is actively guiding biological evolution. The question is do such systems come into existence sans intellect. Observations suggest that such systems do not come into existence sans intellect.
Can you present an observation of a such a system coming into existence sans intellect?
I don't have to read it, observations suggest no such thing. You are simply asserting an intelligence, giving it credit for certain things, and then saying well you cant prove that intelligence didn't do it. You say you have observed this process, well where is this intelligence? Who is it? How does it work?