(August 17, 2010 at 3:01 am)rybak303 Wrote: 1. If God does not exist, objective moral values do not exist.
I don't see how that logically follows.
Quote:2.Evil Exists.I only believe it exists in the sense the concept of evil. But I also believe the concept of God and the concept of the Easter Bunny exists. So as I don't state that I believe they exist I'd say I don't believe in 'Evil' either. Moral evil that is. Natural disasters obviously happen.
Quote:3.Therefore, objective moral values exist (some things are truly evil).I don't agree with the first two points so I say, no.
Quote:4.Therefore, God exists.
Even if I agreed with point '2' and '3' (and I don't), I still don't agree with point '1' so I don't agree with point '4' either.
Furthermore, point '2' and '3' don't logically follow if point '2''s meaning of "Evil exists" doesn't mean "objective moral evil exists", and I certainly don't agree with that meaning. As I said, as far I'll go is the concept of evil existing and I'll go that far with God and the easterbunny - their concepts obviously exist. That in no way means they do. The same with moral evil.