RE: I just spend an hour...
February 15, 2015 at 6:34 pm
(This post was last modified: February 16, 2015 at 10:14 am by Fidel_Castronaut.)
Well, it's not a matter of belief, it's a fact - you don't choose to be gay, just like you don't choose to be straight. So all the other positions are wrong by default and deserve no respect whatsoever, you know, on account of them being totally and utterly wrong.
It's nice to know that you know the positions other people hold better then themselves. So as a hypothetical if a woman says she's gay, then ends up becoming sexually attracted to a man she is by definiton not [solely] gay (perhaps bi-sexual or a variant thereof).
Why mention spirituality? What's that got to do with sexuality, or indeed anything?
People pushing for gay rights seem to be what you define as 'pro gay'. I believe all people regardless of their sexuality should be given the same rights, be they LGBT, straight, asexual whatever. I'm an egalitarian, not 'pro gay'. How is this 'imposing' something when it's a right they are owed by default in a country that purportedly claims to be 'free'? To be clear, in my country (UK), nobody is forcing anyone to marry homosexual couples if they don't want. On the other side however you have people arguing that gays shouldn't be allowed to marry whatsoever. So if wanting to the law applied equally makes me pro-gay, well that's just fabulous
Sometimes Emily, beliefs are just wrong. Like believing that the MMR vaccine gives you autism, or that the sun rotates around the earth. Neutrality towards these kind of subjects is just silly and is actually a very anti-intellectual stance to hold. Behaving in a way that doesn't infringe on the beliefs of others sounds great, but in the example you cite above those who are 'anti-gay' are guilty of acting on prejudice to discrimante against people who can't do anything about the reason they're being discriminated against. So you're happy supporting that position by default by not objecting to it?
It's nice to know that you know the positions other people hold better then themselves. So as a hypothetical if a woman says she's gay, then ends up becoming sexually attracted to a man she is by definiton not [solely] gay (perhaps bi-sexual or a variant thereof).
Why mention spirituality? What's that got to do with sexuality, or indeed anything?
People pushing for gay rights seem to be what you define as 'pro gay'. I believe all people regardless of their sexuality should be given the same rights, be they LGBT, straight, asexual whatever. I'm an egalitarian, not 'pro gay'. How is this 'imposing' something when it's a right they are owed by default in a country that purportedly claims to be 'free'? To be clear, in my country (UK), nobody is forcing anyone to marry homosexual couples if they don't want. On the other side however you have people arguing that gays shouldn't be allowed to marry whatsoever. So if wanting to the law applied equally makes me pro-gay, well that's just fabulous
Sometimes Emily, beliefs are just wrong. Like believing that the MMR vaccine gives you autism, or that the sun rotates around the earth. Neutrality towards these kind of subjects is just silly and is actually a very anti-intellectual stance to hold. Behaving in a way that doesn't infringe on the beliefs of others sounds great, but in the example you cite above those who are 'anti-gay' are guilty of acting on prejudice to discrimante against people who can't do anything about the reason they're being discriminated against. So you're happy supporting that position by default by not objecting to it?
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