RE: Isnt God kind of childish/egotistical?
August 17, 2010 at 6:44 pm
(This post was last modified: August 17, 2010 at 6:56 pm by ABierman1986.)
(August 11, 2010 at 7:40 pm)solja247 Wrote: I never said what God, I said a Creator. There is evidence for a Creator of the universe.
The evidence that is found is evidence that points towards a method of creation, a way of explaining how the universe came into being. So far the scientific evidence has progressed rapidly in finding new and supporting evidence for the current theories, none of which ever invoke the 'God' card to fill in a logical gap. If the evidence is pointing towards simple, elegant beginnings that somehow also support the creation being done supernaturally, then one day you'll have to deal with the question of God after science has answered the current gap question of fashion, as it has done numerous times before. God keeps getting squeezed into corners of darkness.
(August 11, 2010 at 7:40 pm)solja247 Wrote: I dont see your point. Lets throw Christianity out the window, for the time being. An existence of a Creator IS more probable than something imaginary, like FSM.
Why would our understand of God be the same of mileniums? Dont you think the concept would change as we got more inteligent and smarter?
The concept of an eternal being who is relevant to our lives and omniscient and omnipresent should not change over millennia if it's to be believed. Existence of a creator like this who is trying to communicate with humans seems highly dubious given the numerous mixed messages. You can argue a creator is more likely, but what kind of an argument is that? When a scientist finds a probable explanation they explore it, test it, and validate it. God falls outside the scope of that, if God were highly probable then existence would be testable, since God is obviously very NOT probable, this lack of testable evidence is not a surprise, though this is the backward way of viewing this. If we had evidence of a creator then this exitence would be probable, since there is no evidence (you keep talking about it but WHAT IS IT? outside of any religious context of course....) then the probability is very low. Like the wave function of an electron in an atom Beijing making it over to me in Denver, the probability exists, but its useless to focus on.
(August 11, 2010 at 7:40 pm)solja247 Wrote: Its a philosphical arguement, not a scientific arguement (although it can be made a scientific arguement) we dont need to know everything about the first cause, how it got there, or its birthday, just that the universe had a cause for its beggining. You would agree with that?
If it's philosophical then stop trying to make it sound scientific and acknowledge these thoughts on God are personal and have a first cause inside yourself and not in the universe. If it's scientific then present something worthwhile; the first cause argument has been discussed for years, it's dismissed by anyone with a level of knowledge in logic.
My religion is the understanding of my world. My god is the energy that underlies it all. My worship is my constant endeavor to unravel the mysteries of my religion.
