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An Underestimation
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RE: An Underestimation
(February 16, 2015 at 3:10 am)Alice Wrote:
(February 15, 2015 at 11:28 pm)Razulxe Wrote: Philosophy, religion, and atheism hold much of the same value.

Value is subjective... that which to you is trash is to another treasure, and those noted three are certainly not held in equal standing by all persons.

Quote:A firm belief of their "attained" knowledge. Whether in libraries, or answering their own curiosities, many hold debates, with an intent to contradict, rather than reason and learning.

Faith and intention are not one and the same (one is what you know, the other is what you plan/are attempting to do... there is no overlap). Razulxe- Well I could say that I have seen things beyond nature and imagination and cry out in the streets that God is real but the less fortunate like yourself would see me as crazy and toss the idea out the window. I cant say atheism is stupid because I was once an atheist and a phenomenon occurred and the shock landed me in prison.

(February 16, 2015 at 7:13 am)Pandæmonium Wrote: Welcome to the forum Smile

I think you'll find most of us are 'open-minded', but draw the line at un-evidenced claims (as should everyone, of course).

Unclaimed evidence will keep you running in circles meaning you only purpose is to prove religion wrong.

(February 16, 2015 at 2:31 am)Aoi Magi Wrote: Hi Welcome

You have a common confusion about theism and atheism. Maybe try looking up the definitions a bit?
razulxe- no i am theist. I believe in a maker. Not by faith or brainwash. But experience.

(February 16, 2015 at 3:29 am)Alex K Wrote: Hello, welcome!

I have a hhard time understanding what you write. What's your point with the big bang and a creator again?

Razulxe- It is to try a seperate idea of creation- quite opposite. If it is imagined-it cant be contradicted no matter the faith.

(February 16, 2015 at 4:49 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: [quote='Razulxe' pid='876416' dateline='1424057326']
But to imagine impossibilities is a feat of will and real curiosity. | [/align][/color][/size][/font]

To imagine impossibilities is a work of fiction.

Welcome to our club.

Sometimes there are biscuits.

Razulxe- Fiction?You are an atheist.. You wouldnt know the difference if you were the only person in the world and a creator was an actor. Open your mind and I bet you wont be as naive in the everyday world.

(February 16, 2015 at 3:10 am)Alice Wrote:
(February 15, 2015 at 11:28 pm)Razulxe Wrote: Philosophy, religion, and atheism hold much of the same value.

Value is subjective... that which to you is trash is to another treasure, and those noted three are certainly not held in equal standing by all persons.


Razulxe- What was meant that they all have enough belief to argue with each other and none of them come out any different except angry and proud.

(February 16, 2015 at 3:29 am)Alex K Wrote: Hello, welcome!

I have a hhard time understanding what you write. What's your point with the big bang and a creator again?

razulxe- the "likewise" symbolize even atheist believe in hypothesis so the idea is to seperate the proud from the curious.

(February 16, 2015 at 12:36 am)Razulxe Wrote: [quote='Surgenator' pid='876429' dateline='1424059286']
Welcome to the forum.

I have to disagree with your " A firm belief of their attained knowledge" claim. Showing that someone hasn't meet their burden of proof is not a knowledge claim.
I did mean to use quotatations.

(February 16, 2015 at 12:13 am)Pyrrho Wrote: No. If we look at the damage done to the world due to religion, philosophy, and atheism, we can quite clearly see that they are very far from the same value. Razulxe- Sometimes my brain seems to fall out in dreams. sarcasm. But that should express the capabilities of my imagination to an atheist but i figure word of mouth dosent count either.




Somehow, your remarks remind me of a saying about it being good to have an open mind, but not so open that one's brain falls on the floor. Once something has been supported by good evidence, it is reasonable to believe it. And not all positions are on the same level. Some have no evidence in favor of them at all.

Read the continuance.
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Messages In This Thread
An Underestimation - by Razulxe - February 15, 2015 at 11:28 pm
RE: An Underestimation - by vorlon13 - February 15, 2015 at 11:31 pm
RE: An Underestimation - by Surgenator - February 16, 2015 at 12:01 am
RE: An Underestimation - by Razulxe - February 16, 2015 at 12:36 am
RE: An Underestimation - by Surgenator - February 16, 2015 at 1:26 am
RE: An Underestimation - by IATIA - February 17, 2015 at 9:03 pm
RE: An Underestimation - by Pyrrho - February 16, 2015 at 12:13 am
RE: An Underestimation - by Razulxe 2 - February 17, 2015 at 9:04 pm
RE: An Underestimation - by Mudhammam - February 16, 2015 at 12:23 am
RE: An Underestimation - by robvalue - February 16, 2015 at 1:28 am
RE: An Underestimation - by Aoi Magi - February 16, 2015 at 2:31 am
RE: An Underestimation - by Violet - February 16, 2015 at 3:10 am
RE: An Underestimation - by Razulxe 2 - February 17, 2015 at 8:24 pm
RE: An Underestimation - by Alex K - February 16, 2015 at 3:29 am
RE: An Underestimation - by Exian - February 16, 2015 at 4:44 am
RE: An Underestimation - by Alex K - February 16, 2015 at 5:02 am
RE: An Underestimation - by downbeatplumb - February 16, 2015 at 4:49 am
RE: An Underestimation - by Fidel_Castronaut - February 16, 2015 at 7:13 am
RE: An Underestimation - by Alex K - February 17, 2015 at 10:04 pm
RE: An Underestimation - by Razulxe 2 - February 17, 2015 at 10:11 pm
RE: An Underestimation - by Pyrrho - February 17, 2015 at 10:11 pm
RE: An Underestimation - by Razulxe 2 - February 17, 2015 at 10:18 pm
RE: An Underestimation - by IATIA - February 17, 2015 at 10:11 pm
RE: An Underestimation - by Violet - February 18, 2015 at 6:21 am
An Underestimation (continued) - by Razulxe - February 16, 2015 at 12:19 am



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