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Non-overlapping magesteria
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RE: Non-overlapping magesteria
(February 17, 2015 at 12:39 pm)robvalue Wrote: What's the difference between this and just making stuff up?

Hi Rob
What I find fascinating is that our tangible systems of defining laws and relations in the world run "parallel" with the religious systems that use more abstract symbols for collective concepts and relationships.

So if you try to "make things up" that are not consistent, they are not going to mesh with the rest. There is an order to things. What happens locally is a reflection or microcosm of what happens globally (and that's what religions try to represent -- the collective level so it uses symbols).

That's where we use science or logic to weed out where we recognize conflicts, and work these out to make sure all things are consistent.

We use the science and secular system to check against the things people are expressing and enforcing using faith-based symbology (like variables expressing RELATIONSHIPS or laws); and vice versa, if faith based perspectives catch something being assumed or missed on the logic/science level, then this is pointed out, and that conflict has to be reconciled with both standards to be consistent.

These systems check and balance each other, like bass and treble.

What is truly universal can thus be expressed interchangeably,
either using the faith-based religious symbols for these relationships,
or the science and real-world examples that reflect these patterns.
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Non-overlapping magesteria - by watchamadoodle - February 17, 2015 at 10:50 am
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by vorlon13 - February 17, 2015 at 10:53 am
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by FatAndFaithless - February 17, 2015 at 11:01 am
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by Esquilax - February 17, 2015 at 11:33 am
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by Thumpalumpacus - February 17, 2015 at 11:40 am
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by orogenicman - February 17, 2015 at 3:13 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by watchamadoodle - February 17, 2015 at 9:06 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by Anomalocaris - February 17, 2015 at 11:46 am
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by FatAndFaithless - February 17, 2015 at 12:03 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by watchamadoodle - February 17, 2015 at 12:27 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by watchamadoodle - February 17, 2015 at 12:12 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by FatAndFaithless - February 17, 2015 at 12:14 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by watchamadoodle - February 17, 2015 at 1:39 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by wiploc - February 17, 2015 at 12:29 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by FatAndFaithless - February 17, 2015 at 12:32 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by SteelCurtain - February 17, 2015 at 12:43 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by FatAndFaithless - February 17, 2015 at 12:47 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by robvalue - February 17, 2015 at 12:39 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by emilynghiem - February 17, 2015 at 9:28 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by watchamadoodle - February 17, 2015 at 10:41 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by robvalue - February 17, 2015 at 12:50 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by Thumpalumpacus - February 17, 2015 at 1:21 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by Gawdzilla - February 17, 2015 at 1:28 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by watchamadoodle - February 17, 2015 at 1:33 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by Thumpalumpacus - February 17, 2015 at 7:16 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by wiploc - February 17, 2015 at 7:35 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by Thumpalumpacus - February 17, 2015 at 10:25 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by emilynghiem - February 18, 2015 at 1:20 am
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by Anomalocaris - February 18, 2015 at 1:42 am
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by Esquilax - February 17, 2015 at 1:38 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by FatAndFaithless - February 17, 2015 at 1:38 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by Esquilax - February 17, 2015 at 3:20 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by FatAndFaithless - February 17, 2015 at 3:21 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by The Reality Salesman - February 18, 2015 at 12:39 am
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by Thumpalumpacus - February 18, 2015 at 1:55 am
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by The Reality Salesman - February 18, 2015 at 9:30 am
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by Anomalocaris - February 17, 2015 at 8:11 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by robvalue - February 17, 2015 at 1:36 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by robvalue - February 17, 2015 at 1:39 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by Gawdzilla - February 17, 2015 at 1:46 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by watchamadoodle - February 17, 2015 at 3:11 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by Exian - February 17, 2015 at 7:57 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by robvalue - February 18, 2015 at 3:50 am
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by Thumpalumpacus - February 18, 2015 at 4:47 am
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by robvalue - February 18, 2015 at 4:53 am
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by Thumpalumpacus - February 18, 2015 at 2:44 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by robvalue - February 18, 2015 at 9:20 am
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by Brian37 - February 18, 2015 at 9:26 am
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by robvalue - February 18, 2015 at 2:57 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by SteelCurtain - February 19, 2015 at 3:13 am
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by Pyrrho - February 18, 2015 at 3:11 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by watchamadoodle - February 19, 2015 at 8:53 am
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by robvalue - February 18, 2015 at 3:20 pm
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by robvalue - February 19, 2015 at 4:11 am
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by The Reality Salesman - February 19, 2015 at 8:24 am
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by FreeTony - February 19, 2015 at 8:59 am
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by watchamadoodle - February 19, 2015 at 9:15 am
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by robvalue - February 19, 2015 at 9:33 am
RE: Non-overlapping magesteria - by Brian37 - February 19, 2015 at 1:03 pm

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