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Ken Ham petulantly stamps his feet at reality, internet replies, "this is stupid."
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RE: Ken Ham petulantly stamps his feet at reality, internet replies, "this is stu...
(February 18, 2015 at 1:51 pm)Chad32 Wrote:
(February 18, 2015 at 1:45 pm)YGninja Wrote: Ive made the claim that during the time period the only "Church" was the Christian Church, this is because Jews Have synagogues, Muslims have Mosques, other religions have temples. I've fulfilled my BOP. If you want to deny me, you inherit a BOP to show why i am wrong.

You're just arguing semantics. The founders, some of whom were deists, came from a country where people were killing each other over their beliefs. Just specifically meaning christianity would only solve part of this problem. Yes they used church, but if you want to solve the greater problem of murdering people due to religious beliefs, you have to include all religious beliefs. Otherwise you'd have christians killing people of other faiths, which wouldn't really be any different from catholics killing christians.

This is why you shouldn't cling to a narrow definition of "church". What's so much better about christians killing muslims, instead of christians killing other christians?

Yup. Even if the Founders were truly only talking about the various Christian sects in their writing, the very fact that those same Constitutional protections have been applied to other faiths makes the point - even if it is true - moot.

Note that I'm not claiming his assertion is true. All YGNinja has done is make an assertion via terminology, with nothing (no exploration into other contemporary works of the time) to back it up.

It all goes back to his "The United States is a Christian nation" claim, which is based purely on a surface level reading (and misreading) of things. Moreover, it misses the point that even if America started off as a Christian nation (it didn't, but for argument's sake let's go with it), it's no longer one. That's because the Founders were smart enough to allow the Constitution to evolve over the course of time through the Amendment process, and because Supreme Court decisions have naturally (mostly) reflected the values of the people when they were made.

The whole thing is idiotic. This isn't a theocracy. Christianity holds social significance here, but not legal significance. There's a very wide difference between the two. And anyone claiming otherwise really needs to take a few history and political science courses.
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blah - by KevinM1 - February 12, 2015 at 5:54 pm
RE: Ken Ham petulantly stamps his feet at reality, internet replies, "this is stu... - by KevinM1 - February 18, 2015 at 2:19 pm
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