(February 20, 2015 at 1:12 pm)Surgenator Wrote:(February 20, 2015 at 10:49 am)Riketto Wrote: You are the one who make a claim not me.
I am asking people whether the universe can or can not exist without a mind.
This is not a claim or as you say an assumption.
And then i make a comment about your claim in which YOU say ............Yes,the universe can exist without a mind. Like a rock can exist without anyone observing it.
My comment to your comment say........So, you got the evidence that God is not there to observe the rock and to mantain this external projection in his mind?
This comment of mine once again is not a claim that God exist or is looking at the rock.
It is rather a question referring to your comment that the universe can exist without a mind.
Surely, hypothetically speaking a mind could also be Father Christmas or anybody else other than God.
In my answer i didn't claim that God is the one who look at the rock.
On the other hand you claim that the universe can exist without a mind.
How do you know that this is the case?
Have you got evidence that this is true?
So let us see your evidence.
I don't have evidence that God exist. I don't have evidence the tooth fairy exist. Guess what is the rational thing to do? Assume they don't exist until evidence is presented that they do exist. Hence, your question about a non-existent being observing a rock is stupid.
I can show how a rock exist without any existing being observing it. I can put a rock in a closed box with a video camera. Come back in five to ten minutes and review the tape. Guess what I'll find?
Very very silly comment surgen but what to expect from someone who believe only in the material-physical-mental life?
Suppose that a mind or an hypothetical God is there to witness the rock?
How suppose a camera be able to film someone who doesn't have a body?
You never thought this way surgen, did you?


