Quote:That's OK tackattack, if this child wants to be unreasonable then that's the way it will be. Things like that don't bother me with God on my side who do I have to fear.Oh dear Godschild its got so bad you've resorted to personal attacks and invective. Ad hominem is a fallacy as Im sure you're aware. It is not I that constructed the arguments that have tied you in a knot and that you still fail to address. You said:
"God allowed him to do this because He wants all created beings to love Him with out being forced in any way (what kind of love would love be if forced, I say it's no love at all) then He allowed Adam and Eve to make the same choice. Freewill is one of the greatest gifts given to us by God".
I challenged that (@tack this is the challenged referred too). I have made the challenge twice now. So for the third time. Your omnipotent god says (part of the only bit of the bible he authored directly (onto stone) according to your tradition):
"You shall have no other gods before me.....
...You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and fourth generation of those who reject me"
If you have a being saying that to you, and that being can do anything, he is not allowing you to exercise your will freely. He is putting the pressure on you by pain of punishment, and not only to you but to your descendents. It gets worse in the new testament when we find that punishment is infact torture forever. It makes the the mafia look like a kiddies play group and I am sure you would'nt argue that they let you exercise your will freely.
Please sir can you answer that?
