(August 21, 2010 at 3:47 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote:That would be a relativist view surely. So a masochistic may naturally choose hell but if they meet gods standards heaven for them would be hell. Surely that is wrong. From what we are told heaven seems dull and sterile.(August 20, 2010 at 2:27 pm)Captain Scarlet Wrote: Part of what makes us human is overcoming adversity, being able to grow as people, struggling, feeling loss as well as great joy. Could anyone really say they want to go to heaven. Mindless worshipping living in joy forever!Well if you find Heaven dull or mindless or unappealing in any way then it's clearly not "heaven". Heaven surely would have to be, heavenly, otherwise it's not Heaven.
Likewise, Hell cannot be pleasant in any way otherwise it's clearly not "Hell", hell surely must be hellish by definition.
Assuming we go by Heaven=eternal bliss and hell=eternal torture.... Heaven must be blissful and Hell must be torturous.
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Reverse Pascals Wager - by Captain Scarlet - August 20, 2010 at 2:27 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Tiberius - August 20, 2010 at 2:45 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Captain Scarlet - August 20, 2010 at 3:19 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Entropist - August 20, 2010 at 2:59 pm
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RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Minimalist - August 20, 2010 at 3:13 pm
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RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Godschild - August 21, 2010 at 12:54 am
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Zen Badger - August 21, 2010 at 10:51 am
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by DeistPaladin - August 23, 2010 at 10:11 am
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Godschild - August 23, 2010 at 8:44 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by DeistPaladin - August 23, 2010 at 9:27 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by RachelSkates - August 23, 2010 at 10:36 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Godschild - August 24, 2010 at 1:42 am
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by DeistPaladin - August 24, 2010 at 9:42 am
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Entropist - August 24, 2010 at 11:06 am
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by DeistPaladin - August 24, 2010 at 11:22 am
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Entropist - August 20, 2010 at 3:43 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Cego_Colher - August 20, 2010 at 4:03 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Paul the Human - August 20, 2010 at 4:10 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Minimalist - August 21, 2010 at 3:45 am
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2010 at 3:47 am
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Captain Scarlet - August 21, 2010 at 4:10 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by downbeatplumb - August 21, 2010 at 8:53 am
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Cego_Colher - August 21, 2010 at 10:04 am
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by fr0d0 - August 21, 2010 at 10:31 am
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Minimalist - August 21, 2010 at 5:54 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Tiberius - August 21, 2010 at 10:06 am
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2010 at 4:14 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Captain Scarlet - August 21, 2010 at 4:30 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2010 at 4:36 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Captain Scarlet - August 21, 2010 at 4:37 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Godschild - August 21, 2010 at 5:26 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Captain Scarlet - August 21, 2010 at 5:40 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Godschild - August 22, 2010 at 1:10 am
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Entropist - August 22, 2010 at 1:22 am
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by leo-rcc - August 22, 2010 at 5:55 am
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Captain Scarlet - August 22, 2010 at 6:38 am
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Minimalist - August 22, 2010 at 2:16 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Godschild - August 22, 2010 at 4:26 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Captain Scarlet - August 22, 2010 at 6:30 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Godschild - August 22, 2010 at 10:43 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Captain Scarlet - August 23, 2010 at 12:44 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Godschild - August 23, 2010 at 11:28 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by DeistPaladin - August 24, 2010 at 12:47 am
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by downbeatplumb - August 24, 2010 at 3:17 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by downbeatplumb - August 23, 2010 at 2:13 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by leo-rcc - August 23, 2010 at 11:06 am
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by annatar - August 21, 2010 at 9:05 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by fr0d0 - August 21, 2010 at 9:51 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Minimalist - August 21, 2010 at 9:57 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Minimalist - August 22, 2010 at 1:22 am
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Edwardo Piet - August 22, 2010 at 12:55 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Tiberius - August 22, 2010 at 7:04 am
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Edwardo Piet - August 22, 2010 at 5:30 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Entropist - August 22, 2010 at 6:14 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Tiberius - August 22, 2010 at 5:37 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Minimalist - August 22, 2010 at 8:28 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Cego_Colher - August 23, 2010 at 7:06 am
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Godschild - August 23, 2010 at 6:31 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Minimalist - August 23, 2010 at 7:26 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Minimalist - August 23, 2010 at 9:03 pm
RE: Reverse Pascals Wager - by Captain Scarlet - August 24, 2010 at 9:00 am
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