RE: If
February 27, 2015 at 8:13 pm
(This post was last modified: February 27, 2015 at 8:17 pm by Ben Davis.)
(February 27, 2015 at 10:17 am)Riketto Wrote: Where is the evidence that the universe stay alive and well without a mind and therefore the scenario is untenable?Have you not read anything that I've posted in this thread? Minds are a property of brains. I gave you plenty of evidence for this on page 45, post #441 of this thread.
Quote:How do you know that the physical universe can exist without a controlling mind? Do you have evidence of this?Have you not read anything that I've posted in this thread? Minds are a property of brains. I gave you plenty of evidence for this on page 45, post #441 of this thread.
Quote:If you haven't got evidence why then you guess that it is an untenable scenario?Have you not read anything that I've posted in this thread? Minds are a property of brains. I gave you plenty of evidence for this on page 45, post #441 of this thread.
Quote:I can demonstrate that a body can not exist without a controlling mindNonsense. Of course a body can exist without a mind. There are corpses all over the planet which testify to this fact.
Quote:therefore it is obvious that the universal body has got to have a controlling mind.Once again, please show me the brain of the universe.
Quote:This is pure mathematics Ben.![]()
dictionary.com Wrote:'Pure mathematics' (noun): the branches of mathematics that study and develop the principles of mathematics for their own sake rather than for their immediate usefulnessNothing that you've said comes close.
Quote:1) I said that consciousness can be separated from the body and mind as experienced by thousand of NDEs not that the mind can be separated from the brain so please make a correction in your statement.Claims to the supernatural assumptions regarding NDEs have been utterly disproven.
Quote:2) Yes i do claim that the mind control the body which part of it is matter.That's not what you mean and you know it. You claim that there is a disembodied mind which is capable of creating universes. This is a supernatural claim that mind can control matter in some kind of telekinetic way. All claims to telekenisis, when reliably tested, have been disproven.
Quote:3) How do you know that i have no evidence that God exist?Because no one has any. If you did, you'd provide it and not resort to the types of arguments that you're using.
Quote:Can you really enter my consciousness and perceive God within myself?No. Psychic abilities are also hocum.
Quote:Again as you most probably are on the bottom of the list in God mind how would you expect to perceive God?How do you know I'm bottom of the list? Did god tell you so? How do you know what's on god's mind?
Quote:So it is obvious that as you are unable to perceive it you presume that it doesn't exist anywhere else.Or it's obvious that it doesn't exist. Occam's razor applies here.
Sum ergo sum