(March 3, 2015 at 7:42 pm)Thoughtage Wrote:(March 3, 2015 at 7:35 pm)Norman Humann Wrote: Both theists and atheists take a stand on one claim only: the god claim. I'm not sure why you feel the need to squeeze all of reality into it.
The god claim is a claim about the fundamental nature of reality. It is a claim that reality arises from a form of intelligence.
Read FNM's post. It's a claim made by humans, therefore it can be rebutted by human reasoning.