Nihilistic Murderer

[JuliaL]

On the other hands you have examples of animal empathy, such as that one video where a giant bear at the zoo gently picks a drowning raven out of his pond. He could have crushed it with his jaws, but he simply put it onto the banks and went on his merry way.

We don't know why that moron got killed by that bear. Maybe it was a mother feeling a threat for their young, maybe it was an animal he simply got too close for comfort. Humans aren't usually on the bear menu.

Mybold

You're right. I was just trying to bring my comments about subjectivity of perspective back to the quoted concern for the welfare of the bear that killed the moron.

I don't think that empathy can be attributed to the behavior of any individual other than the self except through the process of mentally putting ones self in the position
of the other. That is through empathy itself.
It may seem, or in fact be, more natural to do this with other humans, but in each case, because of the impossibility of actually being them, the process is based on the assumption that they have a consciousness somewhat the same as ours. I believe this assumption is necessarily at some point incorrect. Some philosophies accept that trees, and we, have spirits with intention, that suffer, that should be appeased when life is taken. As in so many cases, this is a theorem that, while possibly true, cannot be proven within the system we inhabit. I Godel.