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Nihilistic Murderer
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RE: Nihilistic Murderer
(March 6, 2015 at 12:14 pm)Faith No More Wrote: The significance assigned is not arbitrary. Through my intellectual capacity and sentient awareness, I assign value to myself. I recognize that which I value in myself within others, so I value them as well. Based on that value I place on them, I conclude that causing them harm is negative(bad) and pleasing them is positive(good), and our ethics can be derived by trying to maximize the pleasure as whole based on each individual having equal value. Philosophically it has more justification than a mass murderer, because the logical conclusion of the philosophy that other people are meaningless objects that can be disposed of is that you yourself become equally disposable. Unless you are willing to devalue yourself, it's an unsustainable philosophy.

I don't mean too much to jump into your guy's conversation, but I'm going to anyway (because ultimately it doesn't really matter, does it?) I think what you are talking about is entirely separate from being a nihilist. You are talking about having a moral code. I think it's entirely possible to have a moral code and to treat people well as a nihilist. Nihilism is just the recognition of the absurd, that it doesn't really matter in the end. So I think that ethics are a seperate issue from whether or not something really matters. Also in address to this:

Quote: Unless you are willing to devalue yourself, it's an unsustainable philosophy.

I think you are absolutely right. If you watch the video and when the guy talks about his own execution you can tell that he places exactly the same amount of value on his own life as he does on that of his victims. The value that we place on ourselves is arbitrary and illusionary. Some people value themselves tremendously and don't value other people at all. Some people value themselves not at all and will place extreme value on someone else. Where does this stem from? From nowhere. If the value we assign to ourselves can be so arbitrary it has to just be illusionary.
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Nihilistic Murderer - by CapnAwesome - March 5, 2015 at 11:03 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Exian - March 6, 2015 at 1:07 am
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by CapnAwesome - March 6, 2015 at 11:45 am
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Delysid - March 6, 2015 at 1:47 am
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Mudhammam - March 6, 2015 at 5:16 am
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Thumpalumpacus - March 6, 2015 at 5:59 am
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Neo-Scholastic - March 6, 2015 at 9:24 am
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by abaris - March 6, 2015 at 6:42 am
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by ManMachine - March 6, 2015 at 9:10 am
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by CapnAwesome - March 6, 2015 at 12:00 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Nope - March 6, 2015 at 12:24 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Spooky - March 6, 2015 at 8:34 am
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Losty - March 6, 2015 at 9:17 am
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Nope - March 6, 2015 at 9:37 am
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Spooky - March 6, 2015 at 1:18 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Delysid - March 8, 2015 at 1:03 am
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Whateverist - March 8, 2015 at 1:09 am
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 14, 2015 at 3:44 am
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by abaris - March 6, 2015 at 10:05 am
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by JuliaL - March 6, 2015 at 10:36 am
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by abaris - March 6, 2015 at 10:48 am
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Losty - March 6, 2015 at 11:04 am
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by JuliaL - March 6, 2015 at 11:13 am
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Thumpalumpacus - March 6, 2015 at 12:48 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by robvalue - March 6, 2015 at 9:29 am
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by comet - March 6, 2015 at 9:36 am
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Faith No More - March 6, 2015 at 11:16 am
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Neo-Scholastic - March 6, 2015 at 11:43 am
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Faith No More - March 6, 2015 at 12:14 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by CapnAwesome - March 6, 2015 at 12:24 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Faith No More - March 6, 2015 at 12:42 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by CapnAwesome - March 6, 2015 at 12:58 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Thumpalumpacus - March 6, 2015 at 1:06 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Faith No More - March 6, 2015 at 1:43 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by CapnAwesome - March 6, 2015 at 2:09 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Faith No More - March 6, 2015 at 2:40 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Neo-Scholastic - March 6, 2015 at 10:25 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by CapnAwesome - March 6, 2015 at 12:34 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by CapnAwesome - March 6, 2015 at 11:50 am
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Faith No More - March 6, 2015 at 12:27 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Losty - March 6, 2015 at 11:47 am
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by AFTT47 - March 6, 2015 at 11:57 am
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by CapnAwesome - March 6, 2015 at 1:08 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Thumpalumpacus - March 6, 2015 at 1:27 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by CapnAwesome - March 6, 2015 at 1:53 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Thumpalumpacus - March 6, 2015 at 2:34 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by CapnAwesome - March 6, 2015 at 2:57 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Thumpalumpacus - March 6, 2015 at 3:13 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by CapnAwesome - March 6, 2015 at 3:29 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Neo-Scholastic - March 6, 2015 at 11:38 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Thumpalumpacus - March 7, 2015 at 3:35 am
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Faith No More - March 6, 2015 at 3:23 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by CapnAwesome - March 6, 2015 at 1:22 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Faith No More - March 6, 2015 at 1:55 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Nope - March 6, 2015 at 1:23 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by AFTT47 - March 6, 2015 at 2:28 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Mudhammam - March 6, 2015 at 2:29 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by CapnAwesome - March 6, 2015 at 2:37 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Mudhammam - March 6, 2015 at 4:11 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by CapnAwesome - March 6, 2015 at 4:14 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Mudhammam - March 6, 2015 at 4:23 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by CapnAwesome - March 6, 2015 at 4:31 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Mudhammam - March 6, 2015 at 4:55 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Thumpalumpacus - March 6, 2015 at 3:28 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Pizza - March 6, 2015 at 11:22 pm
RE: Nihilistic Murderer - by Whateverist - March 7, 2015 at 12:06 am



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