RE: Nihilistic Murderer
March 6, 2015 at 12:34 pm
(This post was last modified: March 6, 2015 at 12:35 pm by CapnAwesome.)
(March 6, 2015 at 12:14 pm)Faith No More Wrote:(March 6, 2015 at 11:50 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: I don't think that's a theistic delusion? Not really sure that there are many, if any, theistic nihilists out there. Theists tend to think that our actions matter overmuch, as in what we do will have eternal effects out our immortal souls. Obviously I don't share any of that. In fact I think atheists who aren't nihilists are being dishonest with themselves on some level.
I labeled it theistic because they often like to tout the idea that if we are going to die eventually with no afterlife, this life is meaningless.
I have a hard time defining myself as a nihilist, because it seems to mean different things to different people. I do recognize that ultimately none of what we do will matter. The cosmos will fizzle out and our existence will a tine footnote in existence that no one will ever read. I draw the line, however, when someone says that because of that inevitable path our actions in the present time and space don't matter. Whether or not that makes me a nihilist, I don't know.
Thanks for the clarity. So you are talking about what some theists say about us. It's funny in a weird sort of way because we've managed to a limited extent take back the label Atheist and make it not sound like a slur. This is frustrating to Theists so they try to use Nihilist like it's a slur and accuse all Atheists of being Nihilists. Of course this doesn't really matter (just like everything else.) Now I am a Nihilist so I don't think that it's a slur at all. I also doesn't think that it's an excuse for poor behavior. I will say that my outlook sometimes has led me to do dangerous behavior with the feeling that if I die as a result, it doesn't really matter because eventually I won't exist anyway. This is just an acceptance of conditions and also an acceptance of the lack of value of my own life. I have good morals in general and treat people well because it leads to my life being better. You could say 'why do that, if it doesn't really matter?' Well it doesn't matter, but I have to do something anyway, so I might as well treat people well and not end up in prison and the like. Might as well do something.
(March 6, 2015 at 12:27 pm)Faith No More Wrote:(March 6, 2015 at 11:50 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: People can say 'well it matters to the families' but we as a species will only be here for a blink of an eye. Whatever meaning someone imposes on their life is pretty much a delusion that they are using to keep themselves from being a nihilist.
If nothing matters, you wouldn't be trying determine if nothing matters.
How so? I mean just because nothing matters doesn't mean that someone is doomed to inaction. I don't see the connection that you are making.
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