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Square-circles Vs. God
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RE: Square-circles Vs. God
(March 12, 2015 at 6:14 am)Cheerful Charlie Wrote:
(March 11, 2015 at 10:02 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: Absolutely nothing, really. If you take as a given that gawd created the universe and is an omnipotent gawd, there is no reason it couldn't change the very fabric of space-time to allow it to do whatever it wanted. Hell, I'm not sure we'd even notice if it happened. We're talking about magic after all.


That would be perception, not reality and while perception can be misleading it never dictates what's real. A circle is a circle even if it appears oval from your perspective.


Or, that type of gawd is either amoral or immoral.

Yes. And that eliminates the God of Judaism, Christianity, Islam et al that is defined as perfectly good and moral and concerned with our well being. If such a God existed and created the rules and laws and metaphysical necessity of the Universe, we'd live in a far different Universe than we do. So all of this is a reductio ab absurdum for the concept of a biblical God that creates all.

I'm not arguing for any gawd. Just pointing out that an omnipotent gawd, if it created the universe, could do whatever the fuck it wanted to said universe. Change the laws of physics?!? Sure. No problem.

Would it be a very different universe? Probably, but that's entirely beside the point.
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Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 6, 2015 at 10:05 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Chad32 - March 6, 2015 at 10:11 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 7, 2015 at 4:32 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 6, 2015 at 10:28 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Chad32 - March 6, 2015 at 10:41 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 6, 2015 at 10:59 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by downbeatplumb - March 7, 2015 at 5:07 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by robvalue - March 7, 2015 at 5:24 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Silver - March 7, 2015 at 8:52 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by professor - March 7, 2015 at 8:53 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Chad32 - March 7, 2015 at 9:24 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 7, 2015 at 9:45 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by robvalue - March 7, 2015 at 8:57 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Cheerful Charlie - March 11, 2015 at 8:54 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 12, 2015 at 10:05 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Ravenshire - March 11, 2015 at 10:02 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Cheerful Charlie - March 12, 2015 at 6:14 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Ravenshire - March 12, 2015 at 3:11 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Cheerful Charlie - March 12, 2015 at 9:01 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 13, 2015 at 8:01 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by wiploc - March 11, 2015 at 11:40 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by dyresand - March 11, 2015 at 11:47 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Minimalist - March 11, 2015 at 11:52 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Alex K - March 12, 2015 at 3:16 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Ben Davis - March 12, 2015 at 7:09 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Angrboda - March 12, 2015 at 1:04 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Pizza - March 12, 2015 at 2:56 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 12, 2015 at 4:36 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Whateverist - March 17, 2015 at 11:07 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by robvalue - March 12, 2015 at 3:14 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 12, 2015 at 3:27 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by robvalue - March 12, 2015 at 3:45 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by robvalue - March 13, 2015 at 4:41 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Cheerful Charlie - March 17, 2015 at 6:30 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Mudhammam - March 17, 2015 at 9:47 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 17, 2015 at 10:56 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 18, 2015 at 11:06 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by FatAndFaithless - March 18, 2015 at 11:08 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 17, 2015 at 11:26 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Whateverist - March 17, 2015 at 11:31 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 17, 2015 at 11:38 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 18, 2015 at 12:10 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Ignorant - March 18, 2015 at 5:21 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by daver49 - March 18, 2015 at 6:59 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 18, 2015 at 7:18 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by daver49 - March 18, 2015 at 7:30 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 18, 2015 at 10:37 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by daver49 - March 18, 2015 at 10:57 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by robvalue - March 19, 2015 at 5:45 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by daver49 - March 19, 2015 at 12:14 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by robvalue - March 19, 2015 at 12:24 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by daver49 - March 19, 2015 at 1:54 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Mudhammam - March 19, 2015 at 2:49 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 19, 2015 at 7:30 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by daver49 - March 19, 2015 at 11:02 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by daver49 - March 20, 2015 at 12:23 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by FatAndFaithless - March 19, 2015 at 1:55 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Pizza - March 19, 2015 at 11:34 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Ben Davis - March 20, 2015 at 7:29 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Whateverist - March 20, 2015 at 8:07 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by daver49 - March 20, 2015 at 2:28 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by robvalue - March 20, 2015 at 4:35 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by robvalue - March 20, 2015 at 7:52 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by DeistPaladin - March 20, 2015 at 8:10 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Ben Davis - March 20, 2015 at 8:44 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by DeistPaladin - March 20, 2015 at 9:50 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by FatAndFaithless - March 20, 2015 at 2:34 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by daver49 - March 20, 2015 at 3:23 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by FatAndFaithless - March 20, 2015 at 3:25 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by DeistPaladin - March 20, 2015 at 4:31 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by FatAndFaithless - March 23, 2015 at 8:16 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Mudhammam - March 23, 2015 at 8:24 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by DeistPaladin - March 23, 2015 at 8:36 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by Ben Davis - March 23, 2015 at 8:39 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by daver49 - March 23, 2015 at 11:57 am
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by robvalue - March 20, 2015 at 2:50 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by daver49 - March 20, 2015 at 4:07 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by The Reality Salesman - March 20, 2015 at 5:11 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by robvalue - March 20, 2015 at 5:29 pm
RE: Square-circles Vs. God - by daver49 - March 20, 2015 at 5:37 pm

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