RE: Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
March 12, 2015 at 11:35 pm
(This post was last modified: March 12, 2015 at 11:44 pm by MilesAbbott81.)
There is too much here for me to address in a single post. I simply don't have that much time on my hands, but there are a few things I'd like to address.
First, I didn't mention charitable giving to condemn, but to illustrate a point. It doesn't matter how much of your income you give, or how much time you spend helping others, because you will always fall short. Do you spend even $10 to go and see a movie? Do you realize how much in food, water, or medical supplies that much money can provide to someone in the third world?
If you loved your neighbor as yourself, you would have to take the food out of your mouth and give it to them. In fact, you yourself would have to starve before they ever did, if it was within your power. That is God's standard, the example set by Jesus Christ. You have to love your neighbor enough to die for them, to suffer excruciating pain and agony for them. That is what Jesus Christ did for us all, and it is a standard no one is capable of meeting on their own.
Nevertheless, we have all been guilty of not giving enough for our neighbor; we are all guilty of starving children and letting them die of dehydration and disease. That was why I mentioned it - you can't judge God for using the methods of justice He does when you ALL fall FAR short of His standards.
You can whine about His methods all you like, and call them cruel and unnecessary, but how do you know what is necessary? Who are you to question God, to claim to know or have a better way of doing things? If the purpose of our existence on Earth is to learn the difference between good and evil, and God put that purpose in motion, you can rest assured that there is no better way. Being made into the image of God is not an easy thing to accomplish.
Someone mentioned the following:
What the hell happened to "Judge not, lest ye be judged."?
That is a line used by those who simply do not know what they are talking about. The full context must be used:
Matthew 7:1-3
Do not judge so that you will not be judged. 2"For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. 3"Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?
Here, Jesus was telling us that we shouldn't judge people by the things of which we ourselves are guilty. It is clear by this subsequent line that once we have repented of our sins, then we can "remove the speck."
Matthew 7:5
You hypocrite, first take the speck out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
What the Bible does tell us is to not judge by the appearance:
John 7:24
Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.
I should also mention, since someone is likely to accuse me of not abiding by the standard outlined in the above Scripture, that the only way to not be guilty of starving children by your own greed is to recognize the sovereignty of God. If you don't believe that all those who suffer from famine, drought and disease do so according to His will, then you believe there is something you can and should do about it, therefore you condemn yourself by your own thoughts and lack of action.
However, one can only acknowledge His sovereignty by His grace, and not by one's own power.
First, I didn't mention charitable giving to condemn, but to illustrate a point. It doesn't matter how much of your income you give, or how much time you spend helping others, because you will always fall short. Do you spend even $10 to go and see a movie? Do you realize how much in food, water, or medical supplies that much money can provide to someone in the third world?
If you loved your neighbor as yourself, you would have to take the food out of your mouth and give it to them. In fact, you yourself would have to starve before they ever did, if it was within your power. That is God's standard, the example set by Jesus Christ. You have to love your neighbor enough to die for them, to suffer excruciating pain and agony for them. That is what Jesus Christ did for us all, and it is a standard no one is capable of meeting on their own.
Nevertheless, we have all been guilty of not giving enough for our neighbor; we are all guilty of starving children and letting them die of dehydration and disease. That was why I mentioned it - you can't judge God for using the methods of justice He does when you ALL fall FAR short of His standards.
You can whine about His methods all you like, and call them cruel and unnecessary, but how do you know what is necessary? Who are you to question God, to claim to know or have a better way of doing things? If the purpose of our existence on Earth is to learn the difference between good and evil, and God put that purpose in motion, you can rest assured that there is no better way. Being made into the image of God is not an easy thing to accomplish.
Someone mentioned the following:
What the hell happened to "Judge not, lest ye be judged."?
That is a line used by those who simply do not know what they are talking about. The full context must be used:
Matthew 7:1-3
Do not judge so that you will not be judged. 2"For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. 3"Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?
Here, Jesus was telling us that we shouldn't judge people by the things of which we ourselves are guilty. It is clear by this subsequent line that once we have repented of our sins, then we can "remove the speck."
Matthew 7:5
You hypocrite, first take the speck out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
What the Bible does tell us is to not judge by the appearance:
John 7:24
Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.
I should also mention, since someone is likely to accuse me of not abiding by the standard outlined in the above Scripture, that the only way to not be guilty of starving children by your own greed is to recognize the sovereignty of God. If you don't believe that all those who suffer from famine, drought and disease do so according to His will, then you believe there is something you can and should do about it, therefore you condemn yourself by your own thoughts and lack of action.
However, one can only acknowledge His sovereignty by His grace, and not by one's own power.