(March 14, 2015 at 11:36 am)Surgenator Wrote:(March 14, 2015 at 10:59 am)Riketto Wrote:Prove me wrong. Oh wait, you can't. All you can do is assert bullshit and arrogantly apply your ignorance.
Here we are.
Once again you fall in the pit of dogma.
You are convinced that the reality is a reality perceived physically or an observable objective reality.
Quote:So tell me surgen.....what sort of perception you use to perceive the reality?My senses, consistent experiences, and predictable outcomes. What's yours, feelings?
Quote:Or put it in this way.........what is the reality?reality
Quote:Look surgen don't try to hard to think or your nerve cells may collapse.Look Ricky don't try to hard to think or your nerve cells may collapse.
But don't worry, Rik is always here to help you.
But don't worry, Surgenator is always here to help you.
Look brother, let me put it in a yoga way.
Of course you will reject this point but if you have something else that make more sense say so but please not the usual garbage.

According to yoga the real reality is the one who turn his thinking into this universe with all inside so anyone or anything which is inside this created universe can not possibly be the real reality.
It would be like us that when we think about suppose a horse that horse pretend to be the real reality.
It just doesn't make any sense.
But again this universe is a reality because if a brick fall on me i will suffer a lot.
But again this universal reality is not the supreme reality but a relative reality confined within space and time.
Sarkar gave the onion example to understand this philosophical point.
An onion has got many layers.
The core of the onion is at the center and layers after layers make up the whole but the core is the real thing while the external layers are less and less sort of powerful.
That is the same thing when compared to our consciousness.
The core is the pure consciousness or God and the external layers are the different strata of the consciousness mind.
So when you pretend to know what the reality is by using your external mind with the help of your physical senses you just fool yourself.
It is only by getting at the core of the consciousness that you will understand what the reality is.
You may say that the reality is what is perceived with your senses but your senses and your mind are related to this FINITE universe.
Finite also means that your mind will never be satisfied as we humans always look for more and more in order to give a sense of total satisfaction and peace of mind.
Anyone who say that they find total satisfaction within this universe is a liar.
If that would be the case people would stop rowing and struggling but they don't and the struggle continue so they are liars.
This clearly means that the reality is not external.
But don't despair brother.
Rik is always here to help you.


