(March 16, 2015 at 9:52 am)Riketto Wrote:Reality is more than just physical. The physical can arrange itself to produce mental things. These mental things construct consciousness. You want to assert things backwards without any justification. My justification is very simple, we observe mind only inside brains, and we observe consciousness only in minds. Show me any counter example.(March 15, 2015 at 11:40 am)Surgenator Wrote: If you know I will considered it garbage, why are you doing it? This is as bad as the christians that quote the bible.I throw my dice after that you say that the reality is sort of something physical in order to tell you as i perceive the reality.
Quote:All the penial gland produces melatonin which affects the modulation of sleep patterns in both seasonal and circadian rhythms and nothing else.Quote:According to testicle theology, the real reality is the one who's testicles turn into this universe with all inside so anyone or anything which is inside this created universe can not possibly be the real reality.Indeed bullshit it is.
It would be like us that when we think about suppose a horse that horse pretend to be the real reality.
It just doesn't make any sense.
See, I can assert bullshit too.
All the testicles can do is to be in charge for making sperm and nothing else.
Even a demented idiot knows that.
Even a demented idiot should knows that.

Quote:Use your horse example a couple of post back. Thinking about a horse doesn't make it exist. So god thinking about you doesn't make you exist. Hence, a non-existing rock hitting a non-existing human does not harm the non-existing human.Quote:Contradiction!!! How can you hurt something that doesn't exist, namely you?Please explain why i shouldn't exist.
Quote:The top cannot exist without the bottom. Go ahead and build a computer without microprocessors to prove me wrong.Quote:The pink-invisible-dinosaur-robot-hybrid gave us testicles to understand the true reality.There are a lot more important things that glands producing sperm so it is obvious that the bottom can not produce what is at the top of it.
Quote:Quote:And you know it's consciousness because a guy said it is with an analogy. How do you know Sarkar knows what the true reality is? How do you know he is not deluded and has not deluded his followers? I bet your answer will be equivalent to "faith."Actually is not faith.
It is pure science.
The more you dilute something and the more it loose his power that is why the pure consciousness is more powerful than the mind.

Quote:I do think you're deluded, and analogies are not proof that you're not deluded.Quote:The deluded believes reality is a delusion. What proof do you have that your view is not a delusion? You only have assertions. I have a rock, when thrown, will actually hurt you.Actually it is you that think that i am deluded.
I am not at all that is why i gave the onion example.
Even the outer layer of the onion are part and parcel of the onion but in a diluted way that is way the material world with his rocks are also a reality.![]()
Quote:Toss your antiquated alchemy bullshit away and take a chemistry class. Plus, your avoiding the question. What makes you think the universe cares two shits about you?Quote:Do actually believe the universe is meant for you with all this satisfaction business? What makes you think the universe cares two shits about you?Here you fail again surgen.
The universe being made of space, air, light, water and matter obviously can not care about what is more conscious like a human being.
It would be like if an external layer of an onion has got more consciousness than an internal layer which is less diluted.
Quote:Psychology is a hobby of mine. And I also talked to my grandma and grandpa on their death beds. My grandpa had regrets. My grandma longed for death because grandpa wasn't around anymore. Plus, you're avoiding the question again, surprise surprise. Did you go around and asked everyone on their deathbed if they had regrets?Quote:Did you asked everyone on their death bed if they found total satisfaction? Or is this just another baseless assertion? I'm gonna guess the latter.One more failing mate.
You never really study psychology nor you have been near people on death bed.
If you would you would know that no one has never been fully satisfied.
The materialist that got 1 always wish to have 2.
The intellectual that study this or that philosopher regret that he-she didn't yet study all the rest.
The religious person doesn't know whether he-she will go to paradise or hell.
The atheist will regret that at the end of his-her life nothing really is achieved so bugger all.
Now you tell me where full satisfaction is then materially or mentally speaking?![]()
Quote:This assertion is pure garbage. Let me guess, you pulled it either out of your ass or your guru's ass. Which is it?Quote:No it doesn't lead to that at all. All you have demonstrated that you are afraid of death, and you want to live forever with god-like powers. It is nothing more than wishful thinking.Garbage.
The reality can not be in a place where everything is moving and changing.